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Old 12-04-2011, 04:44 PM   #16
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Are those just 2 X 6 floor joist?
No center supports, just outside piers, no hangers, rim joist attached to the outsides of the 4 X 4's not notched out and through bolted.
You lost at least 2 days by using those boards instead of reguler sheathing, way to many windows you lost all the wall storage space, 2 X 4 headers, using those pier blocks instead of setting 6 X 6's in concrete, floor joist not spaced at 16" on center. Why the odd ball joist spacing? Is this a metric lumber shed?
Sorry not impressed.
Sorry Joe.............
not tryin' to impress anybody.........

Lost???? 2 days?? who lost two days??? You haven't seen the inside of this beauty yet.
Lost storage space???? where? I happen to like windows so I can see stuff when I go inside. ....and open them up on the nice days for ventilation.....
If you live in a high risk area you probably won't have windows.
Sorry Joe...you live in a different world than I do....I like mine

it's a shed................

Pier blocks set on undisturbed gravel soil with good drainage (done that way around these parts forever)
2x8x12 PT Floor joists with 6x6 PT center carrying timber (not shown)
Floor joist spacing 19" o.c. as per design
2x4 wall studs with 2x6 headers (max span 38")

"Why the odd ball joist spacing? Is this a metric lumber shed?" good one !!!

I often use 19" o.c.
It's not oddball
Look at your tape measure tomorrow morning.
Look at 19-1/4"
Then look at 38-3/8"
57-5/8"
76-3/4"
Oh wow !!! guess what !!?? 8'-0"

Point is....The 19"o.c. meets the same structural criteria as 16"o.c. but saves one joist every 8' and is much easier to get a gun in between for nailing and access to below.

it's a shed...........just enjoy it will ya????

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great illustrations. So, you are allowed to just sit the concrete piers on dirt like that? I was under the impression they had to sit on a more solid surface, like sonotube filled with concrete and rock.
It's a shed....
That's what I got a permit for...a shed
A shed is classified as a "non-permanent structure" therefore you are not allowed to use concrete and piers because then it becomes a permanent structure.

I guess it's kinda like an Ice Fishing Shack..........
hey....not a bad idea.....if I hook up a rope, and.......
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As we approach winter, I really need to get some stuff picked up, sorted and under cover (besides frikkin' blue tarps!!!!)

Tom, because I like you and consider you a good guy, I want to help you clean up some of the mess in your yard by coming and getting that trailer out of there. I am more than happy to take all the tools in the trailer with me, so that you don't have to leave them scattered all over your property. And because I'm such a nice guy, I'll even pay for my own gas.

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Tom, because I like you and consider you a good guy, I want to help you clean up some of the mess in your yard by coming and getting that trailer out of there. I am more than happy to take all the tools in the trailer with me, so that you don't have to leave them scattered all over your property. And because I'm such a nice guy, I'll even pay for my own gas.

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I'm speechless, Doc......thank you!!???
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I'm speechless, Doc......thank you!!???
Oh you're welcome. I'm always looking for ways to be helpful!






By the way... Dang man, fantastic work on that shed! Not that I'm surprised at all, but wow it looks great!
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Are those just 2 X 6 floor joist?
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You lost at least 2 days by using those boards instead of reguler sheathing, way to many windows you lost all the wall storage space, 2 X 4 headers, using those pier blocks instead of setting 6 X 6's in concrete, floor joist not spaced at 16" on center. Why the odd ball joist spacing? Is this a metric lumber shed?
Sorry not impressed.
Wow. Charming. What a guy...
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You wouldn't like my shed at all---I laid four railroad ties on the ground and built up from there--dirt floor-

Build it in 1987--still there--It's a shed---no permit either--agricultural zoning--no need---
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You wouldn't like my shed at all---I laid four railroad ties on the ground and built up from there--dirt floor-

Build it in 1987--still there--It's a shed---no permit either--agricultural zoning--no need---

Show us your Shed, Mike..!!!!
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No way----I knocked that together as a temporary place to store things before I built the house--

I figured it would be torn down when the house was complete----that was over 20 years ago---
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Once again, without a full time photographer, it's hard to stop and take pics.....

So I got the rest of the rafters up and sheathed the roof the next day



Framed and closed in the gables





added some more support around the posts to carry the rim load



I picked up a new resting bench at the end of somebody's driveway



With the help of my best friend, Bill who's always coming up with ways to get out of work
Something's in my eye...sure, Bill



But we Got 'er B!tched





and just in time.......

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Add a wood stove and I just might rent that as a vacation cottage----
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The funny thing is....about1/2 way through this little project, I started envisioning where a stove could go...and maybe save that corner for my lathe....and should I allow for insulation.....and how far would I have to run a water line? ......

Luckily I stayed the course and IT'S STILL A SHED !!!!
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Very very nice shed! Love the pictures.
Like the windows idea as I find I tend to spend too much time in mine, and a little daylight would be good. I would have went with sheathing for the walls because I am lazy and I can't imagine how screwed up MY walls would look if I tried using boards like you did!!
Nice work. Come on down the road a piece to NH, I need a shed.

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