DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum

DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum (http://www.diychatroom.com/)
-   Project Showcase (http://www.diychatroom.com/f49/)
-   -   Building my shed Part 1 (http://www.diychatroom.com/f49/building-my-shed-part-1-a-124722/)

tcleve4911 11-27-2011 10:54 AM

Building my shed Part 1
 
As we approach winter, I really need to get some stuff picked up, sorted and under cover (besides frikkin' blue tarps!!!!)

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ed/themess.jpg

But how do you decide what to build and where it's going to live without being an eyesore.


So the first task was to choose the spot.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ndation004.jpg

I start with a cornerstone and run everything off that point

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ornerstone.jpg

...and lay it out with some blocks and tape so I could visualize it.
I decided 12' x 16' would be a decent start

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ndation002.jpg

Cut down a few saplings that were in the way and made a seat to take a break on.....

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...eathing002.jpg

Pulled the stumps

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ndows001-1.jpg

The inspector showed up just in time and gave her input and approval.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...eeringfirm.jpg

...so I set up my high-tech transit

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...dwithlaser.jpg

and set my outside rims

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ndation013.jpg

When I was happy with those, I finished the perimeter

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...rimeterrim.jpg

That's all for today.....I'll be back in the morning

tcleve4911 11-27-2011 11:09 AM

Part 2
 
So today I'm going to run all the joists and sheath the deck

When I'm working alone and need to set the joists, I clamp a cleat on the other end to hold the joist temporarily in place.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ndation015.jpg

I decided to run my framing at 19.314579 " on center

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w.../Shed/19oc.jpg

All the joists in and secured

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...oorframing.jpg

Ran the 3/4" T&G sheathing...and screwed her down

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...inchscrews.jpg

It went good and we now have a platform to work from

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...Shed/floor.jpg

So while I was uncovering scraps from under the tarps, I decided to make me some steps

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...tairmockup.jpg

That's enough for today

SeeDBee 11-27-2011 09:52 PM

great illustrations. So, you are allowed to just sit the concrete piers on dirt like that? I was under the impression they had to sit on a more solid surface, like sonotube filled with concrete and rock.

oh'mike 11-27-2011 11:17 PM

He's got a 'thing' going with the inspector.:laughing:

CoconutPete 11-28-2011 09:00 AM

Nice! :thumbsup:

DexterII 11-28-2011 10:19 AM

Looking good! Looks like ma nature is tolerant of you waiting until this late in the year, and is giving you some great late-season weather to work in!

tcleve4911 12-04-2011 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeeDBee (Post 780320)
great illustrations. So, you are allowed to just sit the concrete piers on dirt like that? I was under the impression they had to sit on a more solid surface, like sonotube filled with concrete and rock.

Undisturbed soil is your friend........

tcleve4911 12-04-2011 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oh'mike (Post 780380)
He's got a 'thing' going with the inspector.:laughing:

What??...I pay my fees.....:thumbup:

rjniles 12-04-2011 01:52 PM

Questions:

No joist hangers? Floor joists nailed to the rims?

Rims nailed to posts? No additional support.

tcleve4911 12-04-2011 02:25 PM

So with the platform built, it's time to frame some walls.
I'll use 2x4x8' with shoe and double top plate to give 100-1/2" ceiling height.
....plus I don't have to cut any of them:no:

So it's off to the lumber yard

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ndation006.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...hewalls003.jpg

I built my walls on the deck and raised them in manageable sections (8')..
and braced them plumb and square with clamps and a GRK screw.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ndsteps003.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ndsteps004.jpg

Things went really fast at this point and before I knew it, I had all the walls up but no progress pics.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...hewalls005.jpg

So I braced everything off so I could start my sheathing

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ndsteps002.jpg

tcleve4911 12-04-2011 02:26 PM

Sheathing
 
So off to the lumber yard to get some boards.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ndsteps005.jpg

Boards???? no plywood??...osb??? ...waferboard???...particle board??????
Nope......Boards...... good old fashioned 1x12 D3S...7/8" x 12" nominal.
A new business came to town and was offering 1x12 at 30/lf !!!!

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...3/Shed/hat.jpg
...and I got a new hat!!!!!

So I started out by running a 3" horizontal strip to set the diagonal sheathing on top of.
This gave me a straight and level course to work off and protected the end-grain of the cuts.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...eathing003.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...eathing004.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...eathing001.jpg

I decided to stop sheathing at this point because I want to have the roof rafters on and the gables framed so I can tie in the sheathing to the gable ends.

So I'm off to the Lumber Yard again to get my 2x6x10' rafters and ceiling joists.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...9KzTpjfawvyy9w

I ran the ceiling joists so I can tie the two wall together before I set my rafters

[IMG]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w17/006546713/Shed/*****entheroof002.jpg[/IMG]

I used a couple of clamps to pull the walls in straight before I fasten the ceiling joists

[IMG]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w17/006546713/Shed/*****
entheroof001.jpg[/IMG]

I lay out my gable wall on the floor
and I make a template....

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...MyqJA_WK8SCrwg

So while I'm cutting my rafters, I have to keep picking my saw up and putting down somewhere.....
Then I remembered an old trick...
Drive a nail or screw into the end of your sawhorse and leave about 3/4" sticking out.

[IMG]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w17/006546713/Shed/*****entheroof004.jpg[/IMG]

Now you have a place to hang your saw within easy reach and your not setting it on the wet ground or on top of the lumber you're constantly moving around....

[IMG]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w17/006546713/Shed/*****entheroof005.jpg[/IMG]

I get all the rafters cut and staged in place for installation.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...rafters001.jpg

I'm gonna get busy again without the ability to take pics
So I got 1/2 of the ridge pole up and a few rafters on.....

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...rafters003.jpg

I'm done for today.........

Think I'll take a break on my benchseat

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...eathing002.jpg

and enjoy the end of the day........

tcleve4911 12-04-2011 02:45 PM

Sheathing
 
So off to the lumber yard to get some boards.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ndsteps005.jpg

Boards???? no plywood??...osb??? ...waferboard???...particle board??????
Nope......Boards...... good old fashioned 1x12 D3S...7/8" x 12" nominal.
A new business came to town and was offering 1x12 at 30/lf !!!!

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ndsteps002.jpg...and I got a new hat!!!!!

So I started out by running a 3" horizontal strip to set the diagonal sheathing on top of.
This gave me a straight and level course to work off and protected the end-grain of the cuts.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...eathing003.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...eathing004.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...eathing001.jpg

I decided to stop sheathing at this point because I want to have the roof rafters on and the gables framed so I can tie in the sheathing to the gable ends.

So I'm off to the Lumber Yard again to get my 2x6x10' rafters and ceiling joists.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...9KzTpjfawvyy9w

tcleve4911 12-04-2011 02:53 PM

Roof framing
 
I ran the ceiling joists so I can tie the two wall together before I set my rafters

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...lingjoists.jpg

I used a couple of clamps to pull the walls in straight before I fasten the ceiling joists

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ilingjoist.jpg

I lay out my gable wall on the floor
and I make a template....

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...MyqJA_WK8SCrwg

So while I'm cutting my rafters, I have to keep picking my saw up and putting it down somewhere.....
Then I remembered an old trick...
Drive a nail or screw into the end of your sawhorse and leave about 3/4" sticking out.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...sawhorse-1.jpg

Now you have a place to hang your saw within easy reach and your not setting it on the wet ground or on top of the lumber you're constantly moving around....

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ngthesaw-1.jpg

I get all the rafters cut and staged in place for installation.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...rafters001.jpg

I'm gonna get busy again without the ability to take pics
So I got 1/2 of the ridge pole up and a few rafters on.....

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...rafters003.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ofhalfdone.jpg

I'm done for today.........

Think I'll take a break on my benchseat

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...eathing002.jpg

and enjoy the end of the day........

tcleve4911 12-04-2011 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjniles (Post 785800)
Questions:

No joist hangers? Floor joists nailed to the rims?

Rims nailed to posts? No additional support.

yep............old school....it's a shed........

...there are no nails connecting the floor joists to the rim.
They are all 6" structural GRK's

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...mbledracks.jpg

.....it's interesting nobody has picked up on the joist spacing at 19.314579" o.c.

joecaption 12-04-2011 03:40 PM

Are those just 2 X 6 floor joist?
No center supports, just outside piers, no hangers, rim joist attached to the outsides of the 4 X 4's not notched out and through bolted.
You lost at least 2 days by using those boards instead of reguler sheathing, way to many windows you lost all the wall storage space, 2 X 4 headers, using those pier blocks instead of setting 6 X 6's in concrete, floor joist not spaced at 16" on center. Why the odd ball joist spacing? Is this a metric lumber shed?
Sorry not impressed.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:56 PM.