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Old 08-24-2011, 03:16 PM   #1
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Went from some ugly light blue and brown ceramic tile, covered it with Allure TrafficMaster (big mistake), to slate 12x12 tile. i've been working on this room for going on 2 weeks. It took 3 days just to break up and remove the old tile and remove the Allure flooring i had put down.

Just finished this tile job...in the process now of sealing and grouting.
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Looks good---that slate looks like a grouting nightmare---good luck!

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What's in that bucket?
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Thin-set.
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Thinset comes in bags not buckets---You may be in trouble---
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I think I did see at Home Depot a bucket of (so-called) pre-mixed thinset labeled "For use with natural stone tile". Is that what's in the bucket?
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The pre-mix is no good? Please, explain the difference.
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Cement based thinset set by hydration(?) ---It is like concrete--it doesn't need air to set--it gets hard with time.

Adhesives in a bucket need to dry---hows long will depend on how much air gets to it.

Covering a bed of adhesive with a 12x12 tile pretty much stops the air from reaching the center.

Then the are other issues---strength and compression---and water solubility. That bucket adhesive will turn back to liquid if ever exposed to water.


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Wow...I didn't know that and I'm sure the instructions on thr bucket make no mention of that. Needless to say I would actually not mind having to lay the tile again. As long as I don't have to break it up. That was hell. So if water loosens the tile and they separate from the floor, I'll get some bagged thin set and lay them again.

I'm gonna be doing the other half of the basement but with ceramic tile. What thinset do u recommend?
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Any good modified thinset will do--

Modified contains a powdered latex and it sticks well --also has a long pot life--1 1'2 to 2 hours in the bucket after mixing.

A 1/2" drill and mixing wand is VERY helpful---Read that link "mud what is it" that offers a good simple explanation.

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So what's the worst I can expect to happen with the bucket/pre-mixed gunk on my floor? should i pull up the tiles and lay them again or should i hope for the best and repair them if and when they come up?

as of right now, they seem in place and solid. what would you do?

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Cement based thinset set by hydration(?) ---It is like concrete--it doesn't need air to set--it gets hard with time.

Adhesives in a bucket need to dry---hows long will depend on how much air gets to it.

Covering a bed of adhesive with a 12x12 tile pretty much stops the air from reaching the center.

Then the are other issues---strength and compression---and water solubility. That bucket adhesive will turn back to liquid if ever exposed to water.


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Let the installation stay----The tiles will be to much trouble to clean completely---If it fails then re do it--Cross your fingers---and do the next one right.

The only people who don't make mistakes are people who never do anything.

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