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Old 12-16-2012, 09:59 AM   #61
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You stubbed your toe after you put the shoes on? Woe, you are distressed!

I know ..right?

What happens to the mom's rates? They probably dropped to $0 per year as it seems like no insurance company would carry her after a stunt like that. But who knows?


serves her right



You could easily win enough for "A nice southern vacation". But I doubt that Southern Ontario is much warmer than where you live.


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A few years ago, my uncle wanted to buy the house/lot of land that his mother & father and grandmother & grandfather lived in, in the early 1900's. In the city of Detroit. Which is more like a jungle now and most of the houses in that area have been burned down and the lots cleared.

He lives in California and had no intention of ever doing anything with the property. It was mostly a sentimental thing to him.

He was advised to not buy the land. If someone got hurt on the land or something, they would probably sue him if they found out a guy from California owned it.

I see a lot of properties and businesses for sale by a numbered company. Usually looks like this Ontario123456
Too bad he couldn't make that work.

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Old 12-16-2012, 09:59 AM   #62
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Well Barb,

So what happens to the mom's rates??

Barb :
The tone of some people on this site has caused me severe mental anguish. The trauma left me confused and unable to function. As a result I put on the wrong shoes and then I stubbed my toe. I have begun the litigation process.

Do you think my cheque will arrive in time for a nice southern vacation?
Sure it will Jan!
The cheque, is in the mail!!
(My advice - don't hold your breath - I don't think a blue face, is your color!)

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Sure it will Jan!
The cheque, is in the mail!!
(My advice - don't hold your breath - I don't think a blue face, is your color!)

colour Rossi

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Old 12-16-2012, 10:10 AM   #64
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I would move to move to Canada in a heartbeat if I could bring my California weather with me.
I am a little biased Miss Kat.

To me, 6 -8 weeks of intense cold is well worth it.

Also, I think I'd rather suffer through some deep freezes than earthquakes, hurricanes, droughts, tornadoes, not to mention deadly snakes and spiders.

Plus we have Tim Hortons doughnut shops
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Old 12-16-2012, 11:39 AM   #65
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You say colour - I say color
You say cheque - I say check
You say tomatoe - I say tomato

You say "Sil vous plais" - I say "If you please"
You say "ehh" - I say "huh"
You say this - I say that
Sacre Bleu, Mon Deux, Carumbah!!! (Sorry about the spelling!)
Donte es la Cervesa? - por favor?!?

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post #34...nice looking pooch.
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Sorry, did not wish to cause you mental anguish. Please don't sue me.
In the US, attorney's get around asumption of risk by showing that the injured party is of such tender years or of such low intelligence that he could not be aware of the risks. Therefore, he could not assume the risks. I am not a big fan of the American judicial process. I think it was better when aggrieved parties settled disputes with swords or maybe mud wrestling (could be a great spectator sport as well). In any case, you seem to be living in a more society than mine so please enjoy the fruits of your labor.
Very professionally done project, I might add.
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In the US, there is a theory of attractive nusinance which makes the homeowner responsible for injuries (or worse) when an individual is using some recreational thing such as a trampoline or swimming pool on the homeowner's property with or without permission.
Retired Guy...you may want to refresh yourself on the duty a homeowner/landowner owes to an invited person vs. the duty owed to a trespasser. Although when a child enters the equation circumstances are looked on it seems in a differing light.

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All these Lawyers and no guns ...................damn
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Worry not Retired Guy. T'was not you that caused my SEVERE mental anguish. You seem to be on my side

Trust me, there is nothing pro about my project. I just have a lot of spunk and gumption.

That fight with the tarp just about did me in though. Who knew a tarp could weigh 50 pounds. By the time I yanked that thing into place (and the entire next day) I felt like the poor coyote who gets caught under the roadrunners steam roller.
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hammerlane;
You are correct that a homeowner owes his guests a higher standard of care than trespassers but even trespassers have rights. There have been many cases where for instance a kid has enterred a homeowner's pool at night w/o permission and drowned or hit his head on the bottom of the pool and suffered spinal compression resulting in paralysis. The homeowner was held responsible if not fully than in part for a portion of the damages. Here are some typical reasons cited by the court: 1, no fence 2. fence too low 3. gate unlocked 4. no warning notice.
Another situation. You (homeowner) dig a deep hole hoping to put in a septic tank. You neither place boards over the hole nor fence around the hole. A trespasser falls in at night (assume there is no outdoor lighting) and dies. Again, homeowner is liable.
I read about cases such as these and in law school and although it was years ago, I doubt things have changed much.
In any case, let's get back to DIY projects. Much more interesting.

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Point I was trying to make is just because someone gets hurt on your property, you are not automatically liable. Yes we can argue this for the next day. Back to DIY or football now.

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Back to pictures of my guy.
He has the greatest personality. Loyal, smart and gentle, but he would stand in front of a train if he thought I wanted him to.
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........ but he would stand in front of a train if he thought I wanted him to.
That's because you have him well trained..... get it?
He sure is a handsome puppy!

The talk about liability reminds me of the case a while back where a thief broke into someone's garage while the family was gone for a few days or longer (sorry, I don't remember all of the details). He couldn't get back out of the garage, so was stuck in there for a long time - days?

He ended up suing the homeowner and...... sorry, I don't remember who the judge ruled in favor of.
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Looking forward to seeing the completed rink. I wish we could send you some of the cold weather we have been getting. We've only had a couple days near or above freezing for the last month and a half. And about a foot and a half of snow.

Love the Dog photos. Sometimes you have to wonder just what they are thinking as they stare at you.

Here is a shot of one local rink that was created here last year. Notice the garden tractor zamboni and the all important boards to prevent pucks from being lost in snow drifts or breaking the neighbours windows.
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