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Old 06-12-2013, 01:06 PM   #106
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Peter....basically the South Bay area of Los Angeles....close to Manhattan Beach and Torrance

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Hey Ddawg,

Awesome thread. Very informative! I'm the person who posted about renovating a house while living in it. Wondering if you would be interested in discussing with me further about your home renovation--is there an email address I can reach you at? Can't figure out how to private message on this thing. I am also located in So Cal.
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Another update....(seeing how I doubt I'll get much done tomorrow on Fathers Day).

As I've said before....it's the little things that seem to take so much time. I'm basically ready to drywall....but....once the drywall is up it's not so easy to run Cat6 or Coax....so I'm making sure I have everything in that I want....

Last little item....I installed a 1" conduit to my crawl space. I'll be able to pull wires up it to my 'data central' without having to drill holes or open up walls.



The hot mop guy is coming on Monday so I have to make sure my showers are properly blocked prior to that. This part was actually a bit easier than I thought.

This is the seat in the upstairs shower...



And this is the downstairs shower.



And I finally got around to installing the pocket door hardware. I've only had the hardware for a 1.5 years....









I did get a couple of pieces of drywall hung.....forgot how heavy that stuff is....writing the check for someone else to hang the majority of it is not going to be so painful.
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Another update......

I was pretty busy over the weekend....finally getting some of the nitty gritty details done.

After a lot of research...I decided to go hot mop on the shower pan. One of the key factors was that all the homes around me are hot mopped.....with only a few exceptions (mine being one of them), all have the original hot mopped shower pan....60 years +? That's pretty good.

So I spent the weekend getting the blocking done. And I got around to hanging some of the first drywall. 1st on the list, downstairs bathroom......we need another toilet bad.....real bad.....

Today the hot mop guy came....I really like the guy...took the time to explain everything....I wish all trades were like him.....

This is the downstairs shower....



Upstairs toilet



Both are full of water.....inspector is coming tomorrow....

And this is some of the first drywall....I know I don't need to use green board by the washer and dryer....but it doesn't hurt.....



One of my 'design features' that I like.....my dryer vent.....I created a 10x20 recessed area behind the dryer. It has the gas line and a hole in the wall for the vent. What I like about it is that I can pull out the dryer vent pipe and turn off the gas and disconnect the line. Reconnecting everything is easy. Push the dryer into position.....go outside...reach in through the hole, reconnect the gas...then push in the vent pipe.....none of this stuff of using flex line or having the climb behind the dryer to mess with things.



And I got the ceiling drywall in the bottom bathroom done....



Tomorrow (assuming I pass the inspection)...water comes out and I start on the shower walls. I'll most likely do a separate thread on that.
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Looks great. The hot mop thing is new to me.
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Hey Dawg.... Lookin good

I find it interesting how we use different assemblys on a seemingly regional basis (excluding structural issues like earthquakes verse snowloads).

I had never seen or heard of hot mop out here in Co.
I always do a rubber membrane, and sometimes contract a Kerdi out here.


All I can figure is that with our roof pitches... (no hot mop tar gravel roofing), eqipment and expertise is not generally available and shower bases just don't get done that wayout here?

I wasn't in Cali when Mike had his roofer do his MB shower (other two showers are tubs). He said it was slick as snot (except for the odor).

Mike could not really explain what kind of cement they can spread dry to get the pre-base slope... while we don't hot mop... don't really understand why we still don't use that "dry" cement pre-slope.

Are ya doing your top/tile slope... I hate that job... probably because I'm an inexperienced old lady trying to get it perfect.

Good goin on the inspection.
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Also Dawg.... Can't really site down your framing... but it looks awfully clean/straight.

We were going to do Mike's rock, but I was tied up in Co and he got a great price subbing it.

But Mike spent two days shimming/shaving his framing for the rockers. Your wet doug fir framing was new to us.... we use a KD SPF out here... and your framing looks as clean as Co framing.... nice job
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Thanks MTN....

Some of that framing is the old original DF from the 50's. In fact, as I demoed part of the house, I re-used what I could. What is interesting...all my new 2x4's are exactly 1.5" thick....the old stuff is 1 5/8".

That big 3'x3' square in the background is where the old window used to be for the existing bathroom. In other words, your actually looking at the outside wall of the original house.

Your right about the different building styles....based on what I have learned, hot mop works here because we don't get the extreem temperature differences you do. Hot mop does not do well in freezing temps. I plan to do a thread on just the hot mop once I get the showers done and have a good collection of photos.

Yea...I'll be doing my own rock....assuming I pass inspection today, I'll drain the water...toss some sand down on the hot mop and then put some cardboard on top so I have something to walk on without damaging the surface.

I'm using hardibacker...I prefer it over cement board because you don't get all the little pieces of cement when you drill holes.

I will need to fir out the walls about 3/16" to a 1/4". That will get the walls plumb with the surface of the hot mop. I'll then run a layer of felt all around the studs going all the way down to the pan....that is my vapor barrier. I will then install the hardibacker on the walls. The hardibacker will go down to within about a 1/4 of the bottom.

With that in place...I mix up my spec mix and shape the bottom. Once that is in place...ready for tile.

Actually, that won't happen for a few weeks.....we need to get the floor done first. My plan is to have the drywall in the bathroom done by Sat so I can start tape and mudding. The laundry room you see in the above pics is actually right outside the bathroom door. This bathroom is what we call the mud room...it's the closest to the back outside door.

Our HD carries the hardibacker in 4x8 sheets....I have a good sub-floor (3/4" T&G) but I want my tile to have a nice solid surface....those larger panels reduce the chance of flex.

Right now we just need to get another toilet working....5 people and just one toilet is not hacking it.....
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Well....passed hot mop inspection....on to the next step......time to learn how to float a shower floor......open to any and all suggestions...
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Your a very busy man, Good luck, and it all looks great
Maybe I should have gone with this hot mop idea? I am doing the old style. mud and rubber.
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Ralph...I don't think the hot mop is for you. What I have learned is that hot mop works well in climates that do not see cold temperatures....It's a cold snap if the temperature gets in the mid 30's where I live.

Based on my research, mud and rubber or Kerdi is the way to go in your neck of the woods.
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It's been a productive week more or less....started hanging drywall. At this point our plan is to put all of our effort into getting the downstairs bathroom and bedroom done. With the 3 kids sleeping in one bedroom.....it's killing us....they are at each others throats...bedtime is a major event each night. Time to get the boys out and into the new bedroom...

So...I'm now able to use the drywall lift I bought off Craig's list 2 years ago for what it's really intended....lifting drywall....not PSL beams.



1st piece in place.....I can't imagine trying to lift a 10' long piece of 5/8" drywall up into place single handed....



It even makes smaller pieces easy....



And....it's a good time to check all those 'holes' for missing tools. I'd been looking for these strippers for about 2 weeks. We all know how it happens...you up on a ladder doing work....you put the tool down in the closest spot.....typically a top plate.



This room is going to be our oldest sons (now 11) room....because of the angled wall....his closet is going to be angled...but instead of a boring door....he is going to have a split pocket door. Once all the work is done, we are going to add automation to it so that it opens like a door in Star Trek.....

Anyway....for this split door....it took the standard pocket door kit and basically cut the slide in half...



After doing the pocket door for the laundry room (wall is kind of bouncy with 1/2" drywall)...and using Oh'Mike's advice.....I attached 1/2" OSB to the inside....not only did it stiffen it up, I now have a real good surface to attach a closet rod to....or shelves. (thanks Mike for the idea)



I had some "op's paint" in the garage...so I painted the inside of the pocket door....this does two things...covers the bare wood (less likely to absorb odors) and the dark color hides the inside.



Well...the drywall is done in this room as well as the bathroom......





On Friday I start the tape and mud.....
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Looking good Dawg.
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Dawg... Hope these instructions help you for the next few days.......

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2)REPEAT



Looks good... good going

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Thanks Guys....this is the part of the project where the beer cost goes way up....

Side note....

When the drywall starts....that is when you find out how straight your framing is.....or is not.....

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