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Old 09-18-2011, 04:33 AM   #91
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I got home after work this morning and was so incredibly tired. After 26 hours, I felt like I was on autopilot. As much as I wanted to keep working on the tile, I knew I didn't have it in me. I went into our darkened bedroom to take off my top and almost fell asleep standing up. Within a minute, I was in bed, and within another 20 seconds I was fast asleep.

I woke up around 3pm to the sound of sawing. As it turns out, the house two doors north sold to an older gentleman with some construction experience. I had noted while it was listed for sale that the roof looked like it wouldn't make it through another winter or two, and hoped the next owner would notice before they made the offer. Sure enough, he was up on the roof today, beating and sawing away. I don't think he's living in it and that he's planning to flip it, because we haven't seen any moving trucks, cargo trailers, furniture, or window treatments.

All the same, I took 5 minutes to wake up on the back patio, then got ready to start working again. I got the door cuts notched in (having to cut two of them again because I laid out the notches in the wrong corners) on both sides of the room. D'oh!

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I started on the corners and found that I had just enough tile left to cover the exposed footing. I got the rest of the corner pieces cut. I decided to go with butting the 12" pieces on the short walls of the room, as you can see here with the small pieces. I'm not sure if I'm crazy about having one of those on each corner when I could cut one piece twice as large for the center of those two walls or remove them, add another 12" piece to the middle of each wall and take some off the ends of each piece that was in the corner. We'll see what I have left without opening another box of tile... I'd rather keep the last 3 boxes closed up for now if possible. I may just keep it as it is, as I'm planning on having a stubby piece of 6" tile in the center of each wall as well. We'll see how it lays out once I lay out a full wall of 6" tile. It's been rather hard to visualize, as I only bought one bag of spacers and lost 1/4th of them to the thinset on the initial tile laying, so I have to steal them from other areas to lay out the next small area.

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Old 09-18-2011, 04:42 AM   #92
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At this point, I'd come to the end of day 3. I only got 3 hours to work on the tile, so I'm a bit upset about that. Twice more today I goofed up and made the pipes barf water all over the floor. So annoying. I think what I'm doing is opening the hot and allowing the cold to backflow down the line to towards the water heater.

I tried to remove the excess thinset from between the tiles just before I left for work. With over 24 hours cure, they were pretty difficult. I wish I'd stopped and removed much of it yesterday before it got so hard. It looks like I'll need to pick up a grout saw because I already turned one small flat headed screwdriver into an ice pick trying to get it out.

I also need more spacers, plain and simple. There's no way to lay out a ton of 6" tile with the amount spacers I have now. I also have several receipts to be price adjusted because I forgot my ID for 10% off and probably a few small returns. Hopefully I get a decent cashier at the returns desk because I don't want to start a fight when the cashiers that checked me out previously told me to just come back with my ID for the adjustment.

In the meantime, I'll leave you with a picture of what I have left in my scrap pile. The two piles in the top left are cuts from the corner notch outs and corner cuts. The four stacks in the top right at the excess from cutting down the edge pieces to width. There's also some extra (chipped) triangles left over from the first day, the two door pieces that I otched on the wrong corner, an some seriously chipped/broken corners as they came out of the box. Honestly, I'm pretty happy with the quality.

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Old 09-18-2011, 09:45 AM   #93
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Man that tiling looks to be a bit more in depth than I would have ever guessed. I grouted tile once when I was maybe 12 or so and even that sucked to me (recommendation: wear gloves that block sand... Maybe thick rubber gloves). Your layout looks great though. Added value for sure. Congrats and get some rest buddy. That's where we differ. I have to get a lot of sleep on the weekends to make up for my lack of it during the week!

And Home Depot and Lowes are both pretty good about customer service stuff. I just wish I got 10% off... Probably would've saved $1000 by now!

Good luck with the rest of the tiling.
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:34 AM   #94
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You do get 10% off!

Head down to the Post Office and ask for a Change of Address packet (or 5). They're free and have a 10% off coupon inside.
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Wow! I haven 't posted in nearly a week. It's been a pretty crazy time.

Unfortunately, only hours after my last post, I contracted the flu. I managed to pull through the last couple hours of my shift bundled up and shivering before I got to come home. The wife literally had to peel me out of my uniform to get it off.

From the morning of the 18th onward, I was held up in bed. High fever, extremely little appetite, tons of sweating... the works. I awoke on the morning of the 19th feeling halfway decent and saw the wife off to work. I'm the type that will try to work off a head cold, but after only two hours of laying the perimeter tiles, I was back to shivering and sweating, huddled up under blankets.

Some time on the 21st, the carpenter offered to lay the last half of the edge for me. I was feeling very good, even though I resigned myself to peeking on his efforts every so often. He did as well a job as could be expected for a first timer. I'd like to think I have the slightest edge on him having done the rest of the room, but I could easily be mistaken. All the same, I was thankful that it was down.

Having felt so much better and my 103.2 fever having broken to a measly 99.1, I returned to work that night and felt great for the first half of the night. My energy plummeted in the wee hours of the morning and I ended up a zombie. I forgot to take the fever reducer and was back up to 100.5 when I got back in the front door. Lesson learned.

The carpenter grouted it all yesterday, with nothing more to go off of than the instructions on the Lactricrete box and what he could pull up on his iPhone. I'd like to think I could do better, but I've never grouted, and frankly I wouldn't have had the energy.

At work last night, my energy lasted less than the first third of the night. The fever seems to have gone, and is still gone as I write this. My stomach absolutely torn up from the constant medicines over the past week with little more than 7-Up and Top Ramen to back them up. I'm trying to nurse it back to wellness while keeping good nutrition. This weekend will be little more than rest for me.

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I couldn't just post the progress without pictures. Since the grout has cured over 24 hours, we're able to walk on it now. The sealer we have states to give the grout 72 hours to cure and then 24 hours to dry after application. In the meantime, we've put down a painter's dropcloth, some soft door mats, and put the water heater back in. We're aware that it will need to come back out, but it was starting to get stinky around here without a running shower. Heating a bucket of water on the stove just wasn't cutting it, especially with the wife starting to get sick. Anyway, here's what we have!

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Note the painter's tape. I would never have thought of that as a way to keep grout off the wall.

There are a few spots where the depth is slightly uneven, but only noticeable if you're actively looking for it. There's also one spot near the footing where the grout went on a bit too thick, and I'll probably just remove that slowly tomorrow.

The only thing he did that was a little weird was that either he tried to grout up to the drywall at the edges, or just pushed the excess there. We'll be removing it and putting in creme-colored silicone caulking that I have set aside. The baseboards would hide either.

I'm pretty happy with the transformation.
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A little comparison...

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A big thanks to Bud Cline and everybody else who helped so much!
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A little comparison...

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A big thanks to Bud Cline and everybody else who helped so much!
Looks excellent! I'll post more commentary later, but wanted to check in with ya. Hope you're feeling better.
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Much better! Still taking it easy and recovering this weekend.

Will post some updates later today!
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This was pointed out to me the day before yesterday. In all the excitement of posting the tile pictures, I plum forgot to mention it.

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It could only have come from one specific direction at a fairly short distance. Suffice to say, only one house fits the bills - the renters two doors to the South, the ones with the noisy teenagers and constantly loud music. We went over immediately, and they prentended ignorance, but it was obvious they knew it was one of them that put it there. Thankfully, it was still half-fresh and came off with a few sprays of Linseed-based remover.

I've noticed the progression deeper and deeper into Autumn every evening. It used to be that when I went to work it would still be the bright end of a beautiful (hot) day, but as the months have passed, it's become darker and darker. This is what my commute now looks like, for the next week or two at least.

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Please excuse all the bugs. I'd just driven past a rice paddy and was out of bug goo.
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Yesterday was a little different than most for me. I awoke to a set of missed calls (@%*& not good!), spent the early morning with a cup of coffee and a bowl a cereal reading news, and then saw the wife off to work. Afterwards, I was off to do what everybody does on their Saturday morning...

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I volunteered to go cleaned up our Adopt-a-Highway miles. There was probably nearly 30 of us, but by the time I decided to snag a picture, we were spread out over two miles of highway shoulders and medians.

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The guy who drove by with his head out his window screaming, "haha, suckers!" made my morning. I suppose we must have looked like we were serving court-ordered community service or something.
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I've been trying to lean up the bills a bit. A few cell phone features here, a few cable package features there, etc. One method was to order a cable modem from Amazon with gift cards so I could stop renting one from Comcast for $7/mo on my bill.

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Inside, I found the usual stuff: manual that nobody reads, wrapping that nobody pays attention to the stickers on, a CD of "drivers" that aren't required and nobody installs, a power adapter, and the device.

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You can see the old one on top. It never came with the right power adapter, so I'm hoping Comcast doesn't give me crap for that. You can tell the Surfboard is quite a bit wider and deeper, as well as nearly twice as thick if you don't count the Ubee's puny legs. However, this is a DOCSYS 3.0 modem, so it should last be no less than 5 years.

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The surfboard's lights also came on a bit brighter once I got Comcast to understand the serial number I was trying to give on the phone. Since it sits near the living room TV, that's not necessarily a good thing. I may have to dim them back down with some tinted tape if they're too harsh at night.
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The pomegranate tree in the back yard is coming along real nicely. For not having directly watered it all since last July, and God only knows it probably got nothing before we bought the house, it produced fairly well this year. I still need to figure out how to determine a ripe pom so I can harvest some of them. I have no idea what we'll do with them yet!

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(sorry for the camera washout)

It's been looking like it wants to rain today, and thus has stayed fairly cool for the area. We got a few seconds of wanting to drizzle, but it stopped just as soon as it started.

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I feel bad because the neighbor two houses North (the one that's flipping the property, we think) has the roofing material torn off and the new stuff sitting up there.

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We hope this doesn't end badly for him, even though we're really looking forward to the first rain of the season.
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Wow, what a project. Looks very good.
If I were you Id get that water heater in a drip pan and run the drain to the exterior of the house.
It's If you get a leak its when.
All water heater tanks give up sooner or later, and I hate to see all that work get buggered up .

PS: Thanks for serving your/our country.
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Thanks, Albacore! That really means a lot to me... and the rest of us too. As for the drip pan, well, we're kind of in a gamble with that right now. I'm hoping to have enough saved up for a tankless replacement by spring, complete with in-wall plumbing for the washer and maybe some new drywall on that wall.

When the house was purchased, only the back patio had gutters on it. They were of course full of gunk and had several spots where water would just sit. Concurrently with my tile project, the carpenter was working on installing some new gutters. He offered to purchase the lengths of gutter and downspout, which seemed most generous, until we realized that the bulk of the project cost is in the hangars, fasteners, corner pieces, splices, etc. I still appreciated the offer!

Well, they're definitely on. It took quite a bit of planning, a lot of riveting corners together, and a ton of water-proof goop at the joints. The new run on the front runs from the high North corner to discharge at the driveway and thus into the street. One side discharges at the same spot, and one side discharges in the rear.

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Front/East. (runs from right to left)

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Side/North. (runs from background to foreground)

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Side/South. (runs from background to foreground)

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A water flow mockup. Note while the SW and SE sides share a common spout (yellow), they split the area about 60/40.

With that, I think we're now ready for winter!

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