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Old 01-26-2007, 08:28 AM   #16
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Voltage across the ice solenoid is 2.8 volts with the ice arm up or down (ON position).
Do remember the fill part is near the end of the icemakers cycle and will be approx 6-9 seconds long.

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Based on this, I suspect that the icemaker is not telling the solenoid valve to open to allow water to enter the tray because voltage remains constant whether the icemaker arm is up or down. Does this mean the icemaker is kaput, not the inlet valve?
If the icemaker went through a complete harvest and no power was sent to the fill valve, then yes a bad icemaker ( common ) or broken wire between the icemaker and fill valve ( rare ) would be suspected.

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Old 01-26-2007, 09:21 AM   #17
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Good point. How do I begin this cycle? Do I put the icemaker arm at off, touch my leads on my multimeter onto the solenoid contacts, switch the icemaker to on, and then wait and watch to see if the voltage jumps to 120 volts within 10 seconds?

How does the icemaker know that it's empty and needs a refill to make another batch of ice? I put my finger into the icemaker and there is a tiny bit of ice inside.

I think what I will maybe do is pour a glass of water into the icemaker and see if the icemaker produces ice, and what it will do after that just as an experiment.

Update: I poured some water into the ice tray. The water of course froze, but the icemaker did not kick the ice out.

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Old 01-26-2007, 04:45 PM   #18
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How do I begin this cycle?
Short T & H with an insulated piece of wire ( 14 gauge) with the ends of the wire bare approx 1/2" to run the motor.



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touch my leads on my multimeter onto the solenoid contacts, switch the icemaker to on, and then wait and watch to see if the voltage jumps to 120 volts within 10 seconds?
Yes, yes, close....power will be there for the last 6-9 seconds of the cycle, will take the icemaker a minute or two to get there.

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How does the icemaker know that it's empty and needs a refill to make another batch of ice?
Rake fingers always will dump any cubes inside as the icemaker goes, thermostat in the body mold tells the icemaker the body is cold enough to run and freeze the water, thermostat will open when the cubes disappear and the mold body has warmed up.

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I think what I will maybe do is pour a glass of water into the icemaker and see if the icemaker produces ice, and what it will do after that just as an experiment
Hopefully dump the cubes once they are frozen and go through a fill cycle.

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I poured some water into the ice tray. The water of course froze, but the icemaker did not kick the ice out
Give it an hour or two.

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Old 01-26-2007, 09:34 PM   #19
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Icemaker never dumped the cubes 9 hours later, so I removed it and ran it through hot water just to start the test from scratch.

Using a 12 gauge wire (all I had), I shorted T and H. I saw the dial rotate. At least 5 minutes went by with no change in voltage at the connector (remained at 2.8 volts). At 110 seconds, I heard a click, and then 120 seconds, another click, but no change in voltage. I don't know if this click means anything. Checked the icemaker after 5 minutes and the coil was hot (defrost?). Pulled the plug on the fridge and ran experiment again, but nothing changed. Icemaker remained hot.

I removed the wire at T and H, and reinstalled the icemaker's cover plate and plugged the fridge in. Checked the voltage again, and at 130 seconds, saw the voltage drop to zero even though I did not move the multimeter's probes. Coil is cooling down. Postioned the arm off and then on, and monitored voltage, but no change from 2.8 volts.

I don't think there's an open circuit between the icemaker and the fill valve because if it there was an open circuit, then I would get a voltage of zero, but instead, I get a voltage of 2.8.

Does this confirm a bad icemaker?

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Does not sound good for the icemaker.

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Old 01-30-2007, 10:59 PM   #21
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Installed a replacement ice maker. Still no water. When I go to cycle the fridge, at about 110 seconds, I hear a click and another click at 120 seconds, with a drop in voltage to 0 at the water inlet solenoid. Could there be some sort of bad relay? The back of the fridge cannot be accessed, as the panel seems riveted into the fridge.

I tried the short test and see the fingers rotating, so there is power to the icemaker. Checked contacts at the water inlet solenoid, and voltage remained at 2.8 volts past 3 minutes. Any more ideas?
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I had an ice maker on a side by side that formed an ice blockage at the ice maker in the fill line where it comes in, cleared it and working fine now, but not sure what caused it
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Ignore the 2.8 volts!

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Installed a replacement ice maker
With the new icemaker ready, have your meter ready on the fill valve. Install the U wire to start the icemaker, once the icemaker starts to run and you hear the first click remove the U wire and close the freezer door. Let the icemaker run through, post results.

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I had an ice maker on a side by side that formed an ice blockage at the ice maker in the fill line where it comes in, cleared it and working fine now, but not sure what caused it
How did you clear it?
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Do you want me to monitor voltage afer removing the U wire?

Also, the new icemaker comes without the icemaker "controller." This controller attaches to the front face of the icemaker, and has a switch for more ice vs. regular. On the backside, this controller has two contacts that plug T and H. Since the new icemaker did not come with a new controller, I just mated the old controller to the new icemaker.
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How did you clear it?

I used a small instrument screwdriver to clear the ice from the tube as it entered the tray
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With the new icemaker, I installed the U wire and the icemaker immediately started the defrost mode. This defrost mode did not stop, as the fingers kept rotating and the shut off arm kept going up and down. The wheel in the front rotated continuously. Once I removed the U wire, wheel kept turning and the porcelain tray remained hot. No water coming out, but I noticed there was a very small trickle in the previously dry water line. I monitored this, but no more water came out.

I then installed the front controller, and the porcelain tray cooled down. I also switched the controller to "ice plus." Nothing is happening with regard to icemaking, just like the old icemaker. The porcelain tray is cool, but the element is not cold enough to freeze water to make ice.

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The water line at the ice maker is clear.......right?
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Do you want me to monitor voltage afer removing the U wire?
I usually have the meter set up before starting the icemaker...but yes, the wire is used to start the icemaker and once running remove the wire and watch the volt meter.

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Also, the new icemaker comes without the icemaker "controller." This controller attaches to the front face of the icemaker, and has a switch for more ice vs. regular. On the backside, this controller has two contacts that plug T and H. Since the new icemaker did not come with a new controller, I just mated the old controller to the new icemaker.
Might be an good idea to remove that.

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Old 02-01-2007, 12:14 PM   #30
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My multimeter only has probes, not alligator clips, so I didn't bother monitoring the voltage. See my input above, as I provided some more results based on my testing last night. Also, why does your recommended ice maker not include a controller? Could the controller go bad?

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