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Old 12-12-2009, 09:08 PM   #16
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Turning off washing machine faucets when not in use?


They have had problems with those bursting too
I would not buy one & trust it

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They now have a braided metal hose with a valve in the water supply end that can sense when the hose has burst. It will shut the water flow off. I cant remember the name of them but they can be found at HD or Lowes.
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They now have a braided metal hose with a valve in the water supply end that can sense when the hose has burst. It will shut the water flow off. I cant remember the name of them but they can be found at HD or Lowes.
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Hugh?
There are different brands
The inexpensive one he is talking about fails, just a pressure sensing device
They may have fixed the problem, but the connections were failing

They also have electronic ones that monitor the pressure
Not sure how well they work
Watts Intelliflow - $150

http://www.keidel.com/mech/pvf/valve-laundry.htm
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Watts floodsafe is the cheap hose that has pressure sensing shutoff
Problem is the whole connector snaps off

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Like I suggested, it seems to me the way to avoid problems is with an automatic cut-off valve situation. Rubber or whatever line to the washer cannot burst or cause problems if there is no water or water pressure in it when it is idle?
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Watts floodsafe is the cheap hose that has pressure sensing shutoff
Problem is the whole connector snaps off

Did that happen at your house? Did that break just from the pressure or was the hose under strain from being bent or pulled? I have that brand on my house. I might need to change them.
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Not my house, pic from another forum
$25k in damage, it snapped under normal pressure
2nd one this plumber personally saw that failed
Poor quality
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They now have a braided metal hose with a valve in the water supply end that can sense when the hose has burst. It will shut the water flow off. I cant remember the name of them but they can be found at HD or Lowes.
Having a dumb moment I suspect but how does a hose sense it is in trouble and shut of the valve to which it is attached? If HD or Lowe's sells them they must be real?

See a post a few back where what I think you are talking about completely failed.

Valves turn water on and off. Not hoses I have found so far.

Invest in automatic cut-off valves.
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Having a dumb moment I suspect but how does a hose sense it is in trouble and shut of the valve to which it is attached? If HD or Lowe's sells them they must be real?

See a post a few back where what I think you are talking about completely failed.

Valves turn water on and off. Not hoses I have found so far.

Invest in automatic cut-off valves.
At the supply end of the hose ther eis a valve in it. It is a spring loaded disk or ball. Under normal use the water is not flowing at full volume and the spring can hold the ball open. If a break occurs then the water is flowing at a much greater volume and it pushes the ball down and shuts the flow off.
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At the supply end of the hose ther eis a valve in it. It is a spring loaded disk or ball. Under normal use the water is not flowing at full volume and the spring can hold the ball open. If a break occurs then the water is flowing at a much greater volume and it pushes the ball down and shuts the flow off.
Got it now but I think I would really rather put faith in the valve? Trusting all this to the hose seems rather like stapling through condoms to the use instructions for them? If the hose is failed why would I not want the water supply to it shut down? Seems like this hose concept put a lot of faith in itself and still not the valve?

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I never realized it was the norm to shut these valves off. We never have and have never had a problem with the hose rupturing. The problem in my house is that the kids would forget to turn it off after use or forget to turn it on before use.

It may have prevented the problem I now have with a common type of brass double valve that does not want to shut off completely.

Does anybody know of a fix to this problem that does not require replacing the whole thing?
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Another problem with the auto-sense shut off valves:

--some washers - possibly combined w/high water pressure ?
--were causing the auto-sense valve to shut down
--this then required the user to depressurize the hose before it would work again


MIL had a single handle shut-off installed & uses that
I plan on installing one


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