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sobro 06-24-2013 10:26 PM

No Spin Cycle - Kenmore
 
I have a stacked Kenmore w/d combo Model #41793812200. It fills up with water and agitates just fine, but when it is time to spin down, that's when the problems begin.

The pump pulls out the water, but the tub does not spin. What's more, I have heard a high-pitched whining during this part of the cycle (and yes, my wife was out of the house, so that is eliminated). Additionally, I noticed a slight smell of burnt rubber.

Anyone have any ideas on this one?

Thanks!

joecaption 06-25-2013 07:26 AM

The model # you entered is wrong, please try again.
Your missing the decimal points.

sobro 06-25-2013 10:12 AM

Busted!

Here it is: 417.93812200

thanks

sobro 06-26-2013 02:57 PM

Anybody have any thoughts on this? My laundry is starting to pile up...:whistling2:

djlandkpl 06-26-2013 03:20 PM

2 thoughts.
1) There's a switch on the lid to tell the machine that it's closed before it will spin. The switch might not be engaging.
2) The drive belt is broken or bad. I'm leaning towards this being the issue since you smell rubber and hear squealing during the spin cycle.

sobro 06-26-2013 03:49 PM

Ok - thanks for the ideas.

I do have another question, though: If the belt were bad, then would the washer still be able to agitate? I watched it work and it didn't seem to have any issues during that part of the cycle...

Thanks,

gregzoll 06-26-2013 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djlandkpl
2 thoughts.
1) There's a switch on the lid to tell the machine that it's closed before it will spin. The switch might not be engaging.
2) The drive belt is broken or bad. I'm leaning towards this being the issue since you smell rubber and hear squealing during the spin cycle.

There would not be a belt on newer units. They are all direct drive, with a transmission and a coupling.

If I had to guess, the transmission is shot, and with that the coupler and rubber pieces will also need to be replaced.

The parts can be found on http://www.repairclinic.com and have them in two to three days. Total time to fix would be around two hours, four if you are really slow.

I have done it in 45 minutes on a stand alone unit by myself.

djlandkpl 06-26-2013 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sobro (Post 1207589)
Ok - thanks for the ideas.

I do have another question, though: If the belt were bad, then would the washer still be able to agitate? I watched it work and it didn't seem to have any issues during that part of the cycle...

Thanks,

Not sure. The agitator could be directly connected to the motor. The easiest way to know is to open it up and see.

djlandkpl 06-26-2013 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregzoll (Post 1207595)
There would not be a belt on newer units. They are all direct drive, with a transmission and a coupling.

The parts can be found on http://www.repairclinic.com and have them in two to three days. Total time to fix would be around two hours, four if you are really slow.

Repairclinic has his model with a belt which is why I suggested it.

gregzoll 06-26-2013 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djlandkpl

Repairclinic has his model with a belt which is why I suggested it.

Thank you. I was on my phone replying, so did not go to repairclinic. If the belt was shot, the unit would do nothing at all.

So next guess would be still the transmission. It would allow for agitating, but if shot, would not go into spin cycle.

Easy way to find out is to move the unit and look for oil or greese spot on the floor.

sobro 06-26-2013 05:04 PM

I have had the cover off of the lower unit, and there is definitely a belt. The tension felt reasonable (ie not too loose).

I didn't notice an oil spot, though. Can the transmission go out and not leave any oil on the floor?

djlandkpl 06-26-2013 05:18 PM

Try running it thru the spin cycle with the cover off an see if the belt is slipping.

sobro 06-26-2013 07:09 PM

I will double check it tonight. If I remember correctly, I did run the spin cycle the other night while the cover was off and the belt didn't even attempt to move. If that's the case - transmission?

will report back...

gregzoll 06-26-2013 08:47 PM

Motor, transmission, coupling, belt would be the three suspects. Otherwise, corrosion at the harness between the two units also could be causing the issue.

Just have to put it all out on the table since not there to see what ia going on.

If you can get a really good video while trying to get it running, helps us if you cannot figure out from the three what is going on.

djlandkpl 06-27-2013 07:53 AM

I looked at searspartsdirect and they have assembly diagrams. From what I can tell, the transmission mounts directly to the motor and the transmission drives the agitator. The drive belt is below the motor and spins the drum.

With the machine off, are you able to spin the tub?
Are you able to move the belt with it off?
The washer has a part called a spin bearing. It's possible that it has failed.


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