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Old 01-08-2013, 03:14 PM   #1
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Mounting tv above fire place


I am bored watching tv while the baby naps and I keep looking at the fire place. It seems like the perfect place to mount our tv when we eventually get a sectional. I'm sure it probably will not work but it can't hurt to get some opinions. The fire place is pictured below. I assume its drywall on brick with some wood shims or something for the drywall screws. I was thinking of using a wall mount that swivels if its possible. TV is 40" flat screen.

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Old 01-08-2013, 03:43 PM   #2
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Sveral things to consider....some folks really frown on a TV over a working fireplace, inside and outside the AV industry, but like anything else in life, it all depends. Appears you have a gas fed fireplace, is that correct? If so, is it a vented/heat "expelling" fireplace, or simply a non-vented ambient style? If it's either gas or wood burning, and it does expel heat ( other than radiant heat ), that poses a potential issue especially if the TV is a plasma. LCD/LED not so much. You need to see how much heat travels up the wall in front as that will directly impact the TV. Not that it's going to spontaneously combust while watching a Seinfeld re-run one night, rather excess heat to the TV can shorten it's life ( why plasmas are so sensitive, since they put off their own amount of heat ) due to cooling issues.

Another is viewing angle, even with the screen angled towards the seating position, your neck is going to rebel after a while. Using an extreme analogy, think how your neck felt the first time you had to sit in one of the front rows at a movie theater.......

Lastly is proper mounting. If it's a gas fired hearth, originally designed as such, I imagine the wall structure is standard framing with 2Xs. If gas converted, or a wood burning brick covered with furring strips and drywall, you'll need to find out how the drywall is fastened. A 40" wont be that heavy, unless it's a plasma, as those are the heaviest of formats.

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There will be framing behind the drywall, not brick, from looking at how the fireplace is offset on the wall. You should do your research on what kinds of tv's don't do well in above heat.
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It is a gas fire place and only puts out ambient heat which is why it never gets used although the gas company still finds a way to come fill it up every once in a while and charge us. It is possible to add a fan to it and there is even a light switch beside it that I assume is for a fan because it doesn't do anything at the moment. In the past 2 years we have used it maybe 3 times just because we have it.
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Simple test....turn on the fireplace and see how warm it gets above the fireplace.......better than all of us guessing....

Just remember....heat is electronics worse enemy (besides moisture....and sudden stops....and kids with conductive pointed things in their hands)

If you have good ventilation above the fireplace, the danger to your TV should not be an issue.....

But once again.....you just have to crank up the fireplace and see how warm it gets. If I had to toss an # out there, any air temp over 100 deg could decrease the life of the TV.
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The pilot is not lit but when its been on for a while the wall itself above does not get warm at all past maybe a foot above the glass. The glass gets hot of course and the floor around it gets warm but that's about it. It doesn't do enough heating wise to make it worth using and paying for the gas. I think its for looks primarily unless I installed a fan.
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It is a gas fire place and only puts out ambient heat which is why it never gets used although the gas company still finds a way to come fill it up every once in a while and charge us.
What do you mean by this? Is it propane, and your propane tank is being filled? (Fireplaces don't need to be filled.) If your tank is being filled, you're using propane. The reason I bring this up is that I work for my local gas company, and every once in a while we'll have someone dispute their bill because they don't think they are using gas..... but they are. Many people are ignorant of what they have that uses gas, or that simply turning down the thermostat doesn't mean that no gas will be used. I've even had people tell me that they don't have anything in their house that uses gas when I'm there to work on their gas meter. It's interesting to see the wheels start to spin when I ask them why are they paying a gas bill if they don't use gas. These people usually end up having every possible kind of appliance that uses gas, lol.

Sorry for the rant, just giving you something to think about. Installing a fan in your fireplace is a great idea. It will be much more functional if you do that. What you have now is merely decorative and, in my opinion, a big waste of money.
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It is a propane fire place and we have a big tank in the back yard. Nothing else in my house uses gas although I'd love a gas water heater so I didn't have to rush in the shower so I didn't freeze. Anyway, the pilot light has not even been lot in at least a year yet the gas truck comes every 3 months or so and manages to put about $40 worth of gas in it plus the tank rental they charge every year. Maybe they just charge because they came out... Who knows. Anyway, I'm sure a fan would really heat up the house but that's just another expensive thing I want for my house. Lol

Also, I'm not one of those ignorant people. I am 100% positive nothing else uses gas in my house. All appliances are pretty new and are all electric. We even debated getting rid of the tank when we have a deck built in the back instead of paying them $100 to move it 10 feet to the side of the house.

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Are you sure that $40 isn't the tank rental? If I was you, I would get rid of the tank and say goodbye to the propane company. What's the point of paying for something you don't use (other than a gym membership of course, lol)? Keep the hook up to the house line in case you decide to sell. For unknown reasons, some people just love to waste $ looking at a non-heating gas/propane fireplace.
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Are you sure that $40 isn't the tank rental? If I was you, I would get rid of the tank and say goodbye to the propane company. What's the point of paying for something you don't use (other than a gym membership of course, lol)? Keep the hook up to the house line in case you decide to sell. For unknown reasons, some people just love to waste $ looking at a non-heating gas/propane fireplace.
We keep it just incase we ever get a fan and use it over central heat. Also I want to hook the big tank to my grill when we do have our deck built which is another reason we have kept it. We have lots of plans but no money to follow through with them.
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I have pretty much the same layout as you, and I installed a 42" plasma above my fireplace. The distance from the TV to the sofa is ~12 ft, and I don't feel like I'm craning my neck to watch it. It is a simple low-profile mount too, which does not pivot. We keep the glass doors to the fire closed most of the time, but even with them open the rising heat is minimal.

Out of curiosity, what is behind the door to the right of the TV? I ask because I have a pantry in about the same position. I sacrificed a shelf in the pantry for AV equipment, and routed all the AV cables etc through the wall so that there are no wires showing.
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I have pretty much the same layout as you, and I installed a 42" plasma above my fireplace. The distance from the TV to the sofa is ~12 ft, and I don't feel like I'm craning my neck to watch it. It is a simple low-profile mount too, which does not pivot. We keep the glass doors to the fire closed most of the time, but even with them open the rising heat is minimal.

Out of curiosity, what is behind the door to the right of the TV? I ask because I have a pantry in about the same position. I sacrificed a shelf in the pantry for AV equipment, and routed all the AV cables etc through the wall so that there are no wires showing.
It's just a small closet that we put coats and the baby stroller in. I was wondering about the wiring if I did this. How did you run the wires through the wall? I have a chimney and am assuming you do to?
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The cavity in which the fireplace is installed has a 4' x 2.5' footprint, and above the fireplace there is only the chimney flue which is 8" diameter (or something like that?), so there is tons of room for cables back there.

The only issue was an electrical outlet, as I had to get a recessed electrical outlet fitted behind where the TV would be mounted. Once that was in place I only had to route three cables: 2xHDMI and a small wire for the IR repeater.

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Another is viewing angle, even with the screen angled towards the seating position, your neck is going to rebel after a while. Using an extreme analogy, think how your neck felt the first time you had to sit in one of the front rows at a movie theater.......
This is the thing that always bothers me about mounted TVs, especially when they're mounted above fireplaces. I'm sure it doesn't bother some people, or even MOST people, or it's a worthwhile tradeoff, but to me it's not even close to worth it.
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If I were to mount mine above the fireplace it would be about 5' off the ground max. I don't think it's going to happen though. Just an idea right now.

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