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Old 02-07-2011, 08:53 PM   #16
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One reason I never got into recharging these was that I would have had to found a recovery system to reclaim the freon. Big fines if caught letting it escape into the atmosphere.

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I'm still a little perplexed with that. Does the container have a vent hole for the evaporation to disperse? If not, it seems it would just stay warm and moist causing the line to fail.

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Old 02-07-2011, 11:19 PM   #17
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Questions:

No condensor coil on the bottom with a condensor fan?

No plate on the compressor telling how much charge the unit takes?

Why the paint on the lines near the compressor?

Been previously worked on?

If you choose not to answer, that is okay, I will bow out.

I do think you have problems that are not going to permanently fixed by the procedure taken so far. I do wish you luck.
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:53 PM   #18
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Questions:

No condensor coil on the bottom with a condensor fan?

No plate on the compressor telling how much charge the unit takes?

Why the paint on the lines near the compressor?

Been previously worked on?

If you choose not to answer, that is okay, I will bow out.

I do think you have problems that are not going to permanently fixed by the procedure taken so far. I do wish you luck.

Yes by all means do bow out because all I can see is negativity in your comments and are being of no help at all. I am not even going to take the time to answer all of this crap you have posted because if you knew anything about these things at all you would know that the system information concerning the units charge is not always on the compressor and second of all you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to the paint on the lines. This is a commercial frost free frigidaire that I purchased in 2003 and it came new with the paint on the lines. I also has a condenser and fan but they are located inside the back of the freezer behind a panel. Oh and one last thing my brother is a mechanic and he owns his on freon recovery machine. I think it is just better for everyone that you please not make anymore of you negative comments at all. @hardwareman, yes I did read about the approximate level and the low side reading being exactly what you said they should be and I also read that during the recharge process the reading could be 11.9 and then once the freezer cools down as I believe you also mentioned it will change. Last of all I would like to take this time to say thank you very much one last time to hardwareman and the help you have offered me through this entire process. God's speed to you and your family and have a wonderful day tomorrow.

@boman47k Just shows me exactly how little you actually know about these matters being that my freezer is currently running perfectly and just like it was new. The compressor is as quiet as a mouse and fyi there was no freon to reclaim and my brother has the proper equipment to accomplish every task we performed flawlessly. You really underestimate what people can do and their level of intelligence. Oh and I am just curious as to exactly who gets fined when a freon line busts and the freon goes into the air all on its own. I bet you have no idea. Please do yourself a favor and everyone that comes to this site a favor and try your best not to make any comments at all because your type of comments have a total value of zero. Have a wonderful life and take some time to study up on exactly how everything works with freezers and their cooling systems.

Almost forgot to mention that I never said the plastic container that the coiled high pressure line was inside of was enclosed. I should have described it more as a pvc drain cup instead and then possibly you might have known that it is actually part of the self defrosting mechanism of the system and it evaporates the condensation from the freezer as I have also mentioned previously.

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Old 02-08-2011, 08:51 AM   #19
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good for you, glad all is well.
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Not sure where I was being negative. I was only trying to get more info. The more info given the more help can be given. Example: Commercial unit. I have no experience with commercial units. If I had known that, I might have kept my mouth shut a little sooner. You could have explained a little more on the plastic cover over the line. I took it to be enclosed and was curious about it. Maybe it is something to do with commercial units, or something that came along since I worked on appliances, I have no idea.

Diy'ers and what they can do? You have no idea. I am the same way, I usually can fix what needs to be fixed within reason. Respectfully, I also know that sometimes diy can be the expensive and unsafe way without fully researching what you are doing for the first time.

I do not claim to be an expert. I meant to make that clear.

I also know that some of the condensors were in the back of the unit. Some even on the outside on the back.

Won't get into static pressure in the lines and such. And, I see there is no need to mention contaminating the lines wioth improper brazing/soldering. Or the reason to pull a vacuum even if there is no
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Do you think that piercing valve is meant to be permanent? No need to answer, maybe you calmped the line off and sealed it. That being said, I have seen the valves left on some. Some may last a long time.

I have never been blown out like that for trying to help, and I hate that I came across as mean.

There is nothing that has been posted that could not have been found with a few clicks of the mouse.

As far as Me not knowing what I am talking about, feel free to go to an appliance forum and check anything I posted with an appliance tech. With all due respect, while not an expert, I am not totally ignorant on the subject.

The only advise I can give at this point is Mydol? Not sure about the name of that product as there are other areas I am no expert in also.

Glad you got it running, and I do hope it works for a long time.
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@bomank47, it is just the way you work things and the way you came across to me. I have also googled all over the internet for answers as well and a response such as,
"there is nothing that has been posted that could not have been found with a few clicks of the mouse", what help could this possibly be for anyone. You are also degrading the person that is attempting to help me out by saying his responses could be found so easily, which I know for a fact is not true, at least it was not in my case, and all cases vary. You said you would bow out if I wanted you to, and I did ask you to bow out and then you come back making all kinds of statements again that for the most part I already have knowledge of. Obviously there is has been a big misunderstanding between you and I, so you really need to just let it go. Whenever you ask someone if they want you to bow out and they say yes then that means do not come back and make more comments. I was already being helped by hardwareman and I might say he did an excellent job as far as I am concerned, and I did not need any other advice at the moment and even stated so. You should not take things so personal and hopefully the next time you ask someone if they want you to bow out and they tell you to do so then you will cease to make any further comments. Oh and one last thing I apologize if I may have offended you in anything that I said but you reminded me of having a conversation with another individual and you just stepped in abruptly and started talking and would not stop even after being asked to do so. Have a wonderful life and enjoy the day.

@hardwareman, well the freezer is now cranking and running great but it looks like we will have to reopen the system to replace the drier because the low pressure line is still frosting over and I did read where it said that replacing the drier is a must. We have the freon correct in the system and it is indeed working very well but as I mentioned the low pressure line is still frosting over and my brother also stated it has to be the drier. I only have one more question for you. In the catalog for the drier they show just the drier but in fact there is either a very small tube coming out of the bottom of the drier and it runs along the length of the low pressure line up into the back of the freezer to the evaporator. I was just a bit curious as to exactly what it's purpose is and if it is actually a tube or a copper wire.

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My apologies. I just thought I might get to go "ouch!" when I have been slapped on an open forum.

I hope others can see it for what it is, a misunderstanding.

Have a good day. Boman out.

P.s. No disrespect intended to anyone in this thread.

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We have the freon correct in the system and it is indeed working very well but as I mentioned the low pressure line is still frosting over and my brother also stated it has to be the drier. I only have one more question for you. In the catalog for the drier they show just the drier but in fact there is either a very small tube coming out of the bottom of the drier and it runs along the length of the low pressure line up into the back of the freezer to the evaporator. I was just a bit curious as to exactly what it's purpose is and if it is actually a tube or a copper wire.
You DO NOT have the freon correct or it would not be frosting, like I said before a frosting suction line means the system is overcharged. Changing the drier is a very good idea at this point since you introduced contaminants and moisture into the system. Change the drier only, that little tube coming off the drier is the capillary tube, the capillary tube is a metering device to feed freon into the evaporator coil, do not cut it do not pinch it do not mess with it in any way other than scoring it a little bit and breaking it off at the end of the drier, be very careful brazing it back into the drier.
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Ok so maybe I could have possibly misunderstood something along the way. I believe you said the temp on the low side should be -2 to +5 degrees. The reading my brother is getting on his gauges is 0 degrees. He was thinking that since we were at this reading that the drier was causing the frost. Is he wrong in this assumption and if so are you then saying that there is still to much freon in the system with the readings I stated above. Oh and I apologize for not ticking on the thank you in each of your posts as I was so involved in getting the freezer going I guess I just overlooked it. I took care of it and went back and clicked on every thank I could as you have been like a God send to me and getting my freezer up and running again. You helped my brother and I save me from spending at least 500 dollars on a new freezer and for that I am very grateful. Hope all is well with you and I will talk with you again soon.
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On a capilliary type system you -always-have to install a new drier. insert the new end approx 1& 1/2" into new drier..the correct and professional procedure now that you've repaired the leak-hope you brazed- evacuate that charge,cause now who knows what's in there, using a charging station pull a vac, install the appropriate R amount..you should get a full frost pattern with no frost back. you can't go by temp readings on gauges, that's to calculate superheat...there's a lot more to this but that's the basics for your current situation..
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