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Old 11-29-2016, 09:21 AM   #1
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Torx versus triple square?


I will soon be doing a DIY brake pad replacement on a BMW. I watched a DIY youtube video on how to do this job & the presenter on 2 occasions uses Torx bits instead of Triple Square bits. On the first occasion he uses a T30 Torx bit & on the second occasion he uses a T45 Torx bit. On both occasions he mentions that the proper bit to use would be a Triple Square but since he does not have the proper size Triple Square the Torx works just fine. I would really like to use the proper bits if possible but I don't know & can't find the equivalent sizes of bits. Does anyone know what size Triple Square bit would be equivalent to a Torx30 & what size Triple Square would be equivalent to a T45 Torx bit? I know I could buy a whole set of Triple Square bits, but since I would only be using 2 bits & only using them once I would rather just buy the 2 bits I would need. I'm guessing that buying only the 2 bits I need as opposed to a whole set of Triple Squares would save me a few bucks. Thanks

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Ayuh,.... Ain't seen the 12 point bolts, but,....

A 6 point allen key that fits oughta give ya the size ya need,....
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For things of this nature, I go to Grainger Supply, they are a major parts supplier of industrial parts, and have access to many tools that are not at the general auto parts house.


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For things of this nature, I go to Grainger Supply, they are a major parts supplier of industrial parts, and have access to many tools that are not at the general auto parts house.


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My issue is not a case of not being able to find a Triple Square bit (they are listed on Amazon) but rather just buying the 2 sizes I would need to do this job. Amazon offers a whole set for sale which includes around 12 bits but it seems a waste of money to buy all 12 in a set if I'm only going to ever need 2 of the 12. I am hoping to find the equivalent sizes for just the 2 mentioned above & then just buy them separately. Thanks
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Look the sizes up in a REPAIR MANUAL.

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Look the sizes up in a REPAIR MANUAL.

Good idea but I don't have access to the manual. Thanks for the suggestion though.
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I was removing a window lift motor my my wife's windstar and the stud holding it in was designed for an e socket (female torx) I didn't have one. A 5mm regular metric socket worked though. For the life of me, I don't know why these odd ball sockets and fastener designs are used, randomly, for various parts. If it were me, I would use a Torx since it fits and be done with it.
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Harbor Freight is the place for cheap tools that ya only use once or twice. But as Bondo said you can use an allen or a you can use torx. I have the triple square but before I bought them, I was using allen and/or torx. Some head bolts are triple square so I had to buy them. Remember to replace the pad wear sensor(s) also on BMW's.
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Harbor Freight is the place for cheap tools that ya only use once or twice. But as Bondo said you can use an allen or a you can use torx. I have the triple square but before I bought them, I was using allen and/or torx. Some head bolts are triple square so I had to buy them. Remember to replace the pad wear sensor(s) also on BMW's.
I cut & paste this comment from another DIY site ("Problem with using Torx over triple square. is there is more of a chance of stripping out the head of bolt.") & that is my fear with using any other kind of bit. It appears I will have to bit the bullet & buy a whole set of Triple Squares since no one on this DIY or another DIY that I asked the same question, knows the same/equivalent size from a T30 & T45 Torx to Triple Square. Thanks for your time.
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As I said before you can look it up in a real manual.

I'm sure that with the proper research you can find an on-line manual to read.

NOT on you-tube, somewhere else with real useful information.


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Is there a BMW owner forum in which the members might be able to look in a repair manual for you? Is it possible the library has the repair manual?
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My NAPA has Triple Square sets for about 58 bucks + tax. I didn't check on individual cross overs to Torx.

I've read on other sites where it is mentioned driving a Torx in to avoid the right tool. Maybe on my 48 ford but not for me on a BMW.
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As I said before you can look it up in a real manual.

I'm sure that with the proper research you can find an on-line manual to read.

NOT on you-tube, somewhere else with real useful information.


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Thanks again for your suggestion. Believe me, I have searched high & low for the relevant manual for my situation but have struck out. If I wanted to pony up some cash I could get one but I can't find a free manual. If you have any ideas on where to search on-line or can provide a link to the manual I would forever be indebted to you!
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the same/equivalent size from a T30 & T45 Torx
Ayuh,... I just went out, 'n mic'ed my snap-on torx bits,....

The T-30 is .1865", or just under 3/16",....
The T45 is .2640", which is just under 17/64",....
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As I said before you can look it up in a real manual.



I'm sure that with the proper research you can find an on-line manual to read.



NOT on you-tube, somewhere else with real useful information.





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Don't knock YouTube, I just rebuilt an automatic transmission based solely on a series of videos there. There's good stuff if you can weed through the crap.

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