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Old 11-10-2011, 08:43 AM   #1
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91 Olds Silhouette, 3.1 V6. On start, hot or cold, the engine stumbles @ 400 rpm and dies. Restart and goose the gas pedal and it catches and idles @ 1500 rpm, dropping to 900 rpm after about 30 seconds. Put it in gear it runs fine. Plugs & wires replaced this summer. Cap & rotor replaced in '09.

What do think I should check? I am guessing the thermac intake system has a component either stuck or sticking. I will try spraying some PB blaster on the damper in the snorkel.

Any suggestions/ideas? Thanks.

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Old 11-10-2011, 11:31 AM   #2
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If that car has a heat riser valve in the exhaust, I would check to see if it is working properly.

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Old 11-10-2011, 11:43 AM   #3
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I would start with the idle air control motor.
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Old 11-10-2011, 11:46 AM   #4
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Also make sure the throttle body is clean, and free of carbon build-up
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Old 11-10-2011, 01:56 PM   #5
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Pull the vacuum line off the fuel pressure regulator and see if there is any fuel they are very common to go bad and leak causing a hard start fouling the plugs a little.
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Check vacuum lines, probably all old, dried, and cracked
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Old 11-13-2011, 09:51 AM   #7
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Had that same motor in an 89 cutlass supreme and had similar problems. My problem ended up being the fuel pressure regulator.
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Fuel pressure regulator common problem with this motor. Do Not put PB Blaster into the intake system. Use a good "throttle body cleaner" to spray into the intake system after you do get it running and up to operating temp. The throttle body will get a coating around the outer edges over time and mileage causing the "butter-fly" of the throttle body to not close completely at idle. This sends a false message to the ECU and could lead to a "stumbling" problem.
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Old 11-13-2011, 06:54 PM   #9
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Vacuum lines were ok. Air filter needs to be replaced. Underside or the air intake cover was wet with gas. Fuel pressure issue is a distinct possibility as it sounds/acts like it is starved for gas. I will pick up some throttle body cleaner tomorrow.
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Check vaccum lines, fuel pressure regulator, and did you gap your plugs?
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Vacuum lines were ok. I did gap the plugs to spec. I suspect a dirty IAC valve or throttle body. The issue disappeared on it's own for now. It'll be back of course.
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Does it sit alot?
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Old 11-20-2011, 04:37 PM   #13
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Runs every day. Short strips though. Nothing over 10 miles total in a day.
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I would check the FPR, temp sensor, and throttle position sensor.

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