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panhandlion 12-23-2007 02:51 PM

2001 Grand Am GT
Very low mileage (less then 30,000) 2001 Grand Am GT...

Loses oil...

There is no leak that puddles below the car or no evidence in the engine compartment of a leak...

Has to be burning off somewhere or somehow...

No smoke from the exhaust either... Just uses a quart or two every 5000 to 7500 miles...

Too nice of a car to be thinking about getting rid of it... also, the book value is way below what it is worth to me (emotionally and financially)...

HELP !!!!!!!!

Rehabber 12-23-2007 03:46 PM

You would not know about any oil loss if you changed your oil at 3000 mi intervals as virtually all mechanics recommend

panhandlion 12-23-2007 04:38 PM

Thanks Dad... I change it every 5000 thank you... I gave total approximate loss so as to not waste someone's time who wanted to help me.

Keep your smart ass comments to yourself unless you have something to contribute... if not to society to the issue in my original post...

slickshift 12-23-2007 04:40 PM

A quart every 3000 miles would not be considered excessive for the big six cylinder American engine that you've got in there have the 6-cyl right?...3.8L?

panhandlion 12-23-2007 04:46 PM

no, it is not a 3.8L it is a 3.4L... but whatever size, is that right? i mean seriously... that sort of oil consumption is normal? Even on such a lightly used engine...

Rehabber 12-23-2007 06:45 PM

You are welcome Son, No smart ass answer intended, but changing your oil 6 times in 6 years is neglect. Information on proper oil change intervals is in every owners manual, and to get the best longevity of any vehicle, You will need to follow the severe service intervals as set by your vehicle manufacturer.

Sammy 12-23-2007 06:47 PM

I have a 93 Prix with 115K on a 3.0 V6 and it might burn a quart every 3-4K miles.

I dont think you have an oil problem and wouldnt worry about it although make sure to check and change the oil on a regular basis.

panhandlion 12-23-2007 06:59 PM

I have owned the car for only a year and a half...

It had 3200 miles on it when I bought it...

Mom always said you were a smart ass...

slickshift 12-23-2007 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by panhandlion (Post 82615)
... that sort of oil consumption is normal? Even on such a lightly used engine...

Actually it may be because of the low mileage that you are having the problem
Actually at only 5K a year it's more than's almost a given

If that's really short trips, then the engine is not heating up enough keep the oil acids to keep from corroding the insides while it's sitting after it's run
This leads to internal wear and oil consumption

Or if that's a long time sitting between starts then the oil is not covering the internals during start-up (heavy wear on internals means more consumption) and/or the seals and gaskets are drying out (leaks, but not like big puddle leaks, smaller ones where the oils blow off while your driving)

Either way, that low type of usage would be under the "heavy duty" maintenance schedule
The oil changes should not wait for a year (mileage schedule) and should be done by every few months (time schedule), regardless of mileage

slickshift 12-23-2007 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by panhandlion (Post 82644)
I have owned the car for only a year and a half...

It had 3200 miles on it when I bought it...

3200 in 4 1/2 years?

That's when the words "low mileage" mean "Run, Forrest, Run!"

...and no, I'm not kidding
So yeas, I'd expect this engine to burn a qrt every 3K
That would not be'd be expected

panhandlion 12-23-2007 07:17 PM

Thanks for the advice...

I guess what I am am hearing is that I don't need to worry about this oil consumption...

Just check and change it regularly and replace any loss as it occurs...

Right? :thumbsup:

slickshift 12-23-2007 09:12 PM

Basically, yup
Keep an eye on it

You could do a compression test on the cylinders
That would indicate if there is excessive wear on the inside, and your motor is headed for an early rebuild
It would also indicate if it's strong as an Ox and no worries

That might give you a better idea of what's ahead
But even if compression was low (but not below specs), I'm not sure I'd do anything except keep an eye on it..then rebuild it if it gets below specs

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