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bellgard 01-15-2013 06:25 AM

unreliable tradesmen/women
 
Hi all, I come from the UK an area called East Midlands. I have done DIY for the last 50 odd years. It began at school and I particularly enjoyed woodwork. Ever since then I have been learning from watching, being shown, reading and learning by doing and making mistakes hopefully never to be repeated. Having lost the top of my left thumb I would be interested to know how many DIY's have received injuries to fingers/hands when using hand/finger as a guide for a saw.

oh'mike 01-15-2013 06:34 AM

Your poll doesn't have the option of --Never happened---
Nor does it ask the experience level when the accident occurred---

Duckweather 01-15-2013 07:01 AM

My trade school teacher told us over and over that a carpenters best reference was how many fingers he had. I still have 10 after 40+ years. He also used to say to be a good carpenter you have to eat sleep and drink carpentry. Except for some additional cellulose in my diet, I think it was very good advice.

bellgard 01-15-2013 10:38 AM

unreliable tradesmen/women
 
Hi Mike, thanks for your reply. I think those that do a lot of carpentry have learnt over the years but I am led to believe in USA there are thousands of injuries each year many requiring hospital treatment. I have seen a very simple device for sale on the net that I would think would save many if not all of these accidents.

gma2rjc 01-15-2013 12:59 PM

Last week I cut a good-sized chunk out of one of my fingers.

I had the saw out to cut some trim boards and just when I was getting started I thought, "A slice of fresh, crusty bread and butter sounds good".

So I went to the kitchen and while I was slicing the bread, the knife jumped and bit me. It probably needed a stitch, but I didn't have time to go to the hospital.

You should think about changing the title of this thread as it really doesn't have anything to do with the content. :wink: JMO

funfool 01-15-2013 01:29 PM

Really sounds borderline to spam ....
You ever cut your fingers using them as a saw guide? No sir I have never used my fingers as a saw guide.

Oh, but you have a link to a product that will avoid this from happening to idiots that use their fingers as a saw guide?
Just post the link, and we can report as spam and close the poll.

bellgard 01-15-2013 04:56 PM

reply to fool
 
No I don't have such a link.

Many DIYers DO use there finger as a saw guide with a tenon or panel saw and hence there are many injuries especially in the US

Are all forums full of people like you?
God I hope not

TheEplumber 01-15-2013 05:15 PM

Lets see- I've shot myself with a nail gun, burnt my arms and fingers on hot pipes, chipped a tooth using a hole hawg that bound up and smacked me in the face, cut my leg with a worm drive, had wood specs removed from my eye, and off course, hit my finger with a hammer- but never cut my finger with a saw. Pretty lucky I guess.....:thumbsup:

oh'mike 01-15-2013 05:27 PM

I just figured out your question---you are referring to the use of HAND saws---and the injury caused when a saw is starting in a kerf and jump out of the cut--hits the thumb and cuts the tendon--

Used to be a big problem long ago---called that 'carpenters thumb'

Now that tendons can be reattached and hand saws are seldom used--That is a rare condition.

oh'mike 01-15-2013 05:49 PM

Bellgard---Would you like the title changed? I'm able to do that for you---Moderator---

Jim F 01-15-2013 10:59 PM

To answer the origional question, yes I also lost the very tip of my thumb my first week with my new table saw. I learned to respect it and have never done it since. In my case it was just the fleshy part of my thumb tip, what is known as an avulsion injury. I consider it a cheap lesson as I work in healthcare and have seen many such injuries and many of those are worse than mine. The tip of my thumb heald over with not much change in appearance but it is still a little numb from the nerve endings lost in the injury.

DexterII 01-16-2013 08:48 AM

Last winter, a buddy of mine told me that it's not a good idea to wear gloves while operating a table saw, meanwhile holding up the bandaged remnants of one of his fingers. Yup, never have, never will, but thanks for the tip.

Fairview 01-16-2013 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DexterII (Post 1094772)
Last winter, a buddy of mine told me that it's not a good idea to wear gloves while operating a table saw, meanwhile holding up the bandaged remnants of one of his fingers. Yup, never have, never will, but thanks for the tip.


Let's say a glove is 1/8" thick. So now I'm supposed to believe it's Ok for a bare finger to be within an eighth inch of a dangerous rotating blade but not a glove. To me this was nothing short of a lack of safety skill or safety attitude but blame it on a poor glove that has no brain. Incredible.

oh'mike 01-16-2013 11:54 AM

I'm with Fairview on the gloves----I don't wear any when working with power tools---

The thought of a hand getting pulled into a saw by the fabric is real frightening---

Enough workers get a nick ---which would translate into a major injury with gloves on--

DexterII 01-16-2013 06:02 PM

Yeah Mike, that was my point. One of the first things that I learned about operating equipment was not to wear loose clothing, and to not operate something like a table saw while wearing gloves. My comment "Yup, never have, never will, but thanks for the tip", or something like that, was all I could muster when he presented his new found knowledge as revolutionary. And Fairview, you're right, having your hand within the thickness of a glove from a powered saw blade is too close, but I wasn't there, so don't know how close his hand was to the blade; the point was that something on the glove, maybe a long dangling thread for all I know, got caught in the blade, and it took his hand with it.


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