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Old 09-26-2011, 01:58 PM   #16
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So if the device is accidentally triggered then the saw is rendered useless until the device can be renewed???

That's real handy.

Obviously a gizmo for the home-hobbyist and not useful on a job somewhere by a serious contractor.
Yea, because we all know serious contractors never have get workers injured on the job due to carelessness

I'd think a contractor with blood gushing out of the nub where his finger used to be would be just as useless until he was repaired or replaced

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Old 09-26-2011, 02:09 PM   #17
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...and next thing you know you guys will want air-bags on chain saws and harnesses on eight foot step ladders.

Sure accidents happen and all of them are preventable if a person is paying attention. I've had a few injuries of various descriptions myself over the years and I can honestly say that each and every one of them can be attributed to my own negligence and could have been prevented.

This is exactly the trouble with later generations, everyone these days wants some one else to protect them and think they are due entitlements. Everything is always someone else's fault.
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Old 09-26-2011, 02:13 PM   #18
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I have a friend that is a ahndy guy, remodeled several houses over the years, bought a new saw with the option of the saw stop.
He did not buy it, and later, after a thumb tip and 2 fingers were missing, said it could have been the best $300 he could have spent.
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One can read the owners manual and apply the warnings that come with it for free.
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Old 09-26-2011, 02:22 PM   #20
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I'm not suggesting that every tablesaw on the market be REQUIRED to have this feature, all I'm saying is that it is viable in the market as an option, and would speculate that if it works as advertised it would be quickly embraced in both the pro and DIY markets by a fairly large percentage.

My understanding is it hasn't taken off because insurance companies would rather pay out a little a lot more often when a someone is injured on a tool that has a reputation of being dangerous is involved, rather than a lot more money less often when someone is injured on something that is sold as being much safer
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Old 09-27-2011, 08:48 PM   #21
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EDIT: just looked it up online, only looked at the first site that i found that had them for sale, the replacement cartridge was $69 which is still pretty cheap if you aren't setting off false alarms
Plus the cost of a new blade. When the emergency brake fires, the blade chews in to the soft metal (whatever it is) and is pretty much destroyed.

We had one in the scene shop in college. If I recall, there is a way to bypass the sawstop when working with materials that can potentially trigger a false alarm (wet wood, for example). I never saw it go off while I was going/working there, but shortly after I left it saved some meathead no-neck guy's fingers or so the story goes.
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Anyone who would saw wet wood on a good tablesaw, should be shot.
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Old 10-02-2011, 09:33 PM   #23
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When it was offered to the other manufacturors, it was originally supposed to add about $100 to the cost of a new saw. They all told him to take a flying leap, so he developed his (their) own saw. It is very nice but more than $100 difference to a good General.
I personally bought a cheaper cabinet saw and recenly touched the side of the blade during a procedure, took off a couple of layers of skin and felt like an electric shock, didn't even bleed. Made me think about my choice.
I have been using a table saw for over thirty years. Didn't wreck a blade though.
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Old 10-20-2011, 09:23 AM   #24
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They have come out with a new saw designed for the jobsite,, mobile base and all. It retails ( in Canada) for around the $1700.00 dollar mark.
Way nicer than my Boshe.
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Anyone using common sense will be OK using a table saw. But common sense isn't very common.
Oh so true. I'm not a professional but just finished building my own house by myself. I've been using tables saws for many years and still have all my fingers. And the first thing I do with a new saw is take off the blade guard/antikickback thing and throw it away. Common sense, featherboards, and push sticks are all you need. Oh, and safety glasses.
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Oh so true. I'm not a professional but just finished building my own house by myself. I've been using tables saws for many years and still have all my fingers. And the first thing I do with a new saw is take off the blade guard/antikickback thing and throw it away. Common sense, featherboards, and push sticks are all you need. Oh, and safety glasses.
The blade guard/anti kickback are dangerous. They can cause the wood to bind.
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Here is another angle to this story

http://www.finehomebuilding.com/item...e-homebuilding

Seems to me that some people just cannot have their own self responsibility. Beyond a table saw, I say get them a knife and a toaster and let them go at it.
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The SawStop does nothing for kickback or any other binding accident, which IMO is more dangerous and occurs more frequently than blade accidents.
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As a buisiness owner who uses tablesaws every day, I am not so worried about my own safety, as that of my employees.I do not own any sawstop equipment, but believe me, I think about it and constantly remind them about safety.
Two of my employees have had the misfortune of having had an (incident).
Fortunately for them, it only resulted in a nasty scar and a life lesson.
I can only imagine what workmans comp would have to say.
My next jobsite saw will probably be a saw stop

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