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Old 09-23-2011, 06:34 PM   #1
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http://m.npr.org/story/140708285?url...for-table-saws

Coverage of the CPSC meetings this week on table saws.

This overwrought article from NPR highlights how common sense can be trumped by politicians.

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Old 09-23-2011, 06:43 PM   #2
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The Saw Stop guy is making progress ---he holds the patent and finally found some politicians to back his play.

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Old 09-23-2011, 06:50 PM   #3
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That's a lot of crap. Table saws have had blade guards and anti-kickback spurs and slap switches for years and years. When will people be responsible for their own actions and stupidity. Like the guy in the photo with the hot dog and no blade guard. He deserves whatever happens to him if something does.

In the interest of consumer safety that inventor of the Saw Stop guy should place his invention into the public domain.

Yow right.
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Dont get me wrong. I wish my table saw had one and would be willing to pay for it.

It's just funny to hear politicians talking about it in such as histrionic manner. You would think every contractor is missing a finger, hand or arm
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Several years ago I had a dumb a$$ that worked for me run his thumb into my table saw. Of course we were out in the boonies when it happened and of course everything screeched to a grinding halt so I could carry his dumb a$$ to the Emergency Room. And of course I paid cash for his repairs to avoid a Comp claim and of course I paid him to ride to the hospital and back to the job after three hours in emergency in addition to paying his dumb a$$ to sit in the hospital for three hours.

Though slightly sympathetic I took a large chunk out of his a$$ all the way into town and all the way back to the job and all the way home that evening. Yup..."that evening". Because we worked well into the evening to get done as originally planned before the dumb a$$ did his dumb a$$ thing.

And that's all I have to say about that!

Oh one more thing! Did I mention I think the guy was a dumb a$$?
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Anyone using common sense will be OK using a table saw. But common sense isn't very common.
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Anyone using common sense will be OK using a table saw. But common sense isn't very common.
There are situations with table saws where until you’ve actually experienced them a few times and figured out how to deal with the situation can get you hurt, common sense or not.

A couple of quick ones come to mind are like the wood trying to walk off the blade, especially with miters. Or the material actually closing up and binding the blade the further you get into the cut.

Knots have there own bag of tricks they sometimes play and you never know which one it is until it is about to or is happening. Small pieces of wood can be good for an unexpected surprise too.

I guess what I’m saying is there is more than just simple common sense involved with table saw safety. A novice with all of the common sense in world will never replace experience. The experienced know to always expect the unexpected with a table saw.
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There are situations with table saws where until youíve actually experienced them a few times and figured out how to deal with the situation can get you hurt, common sense or not.

A couple of quick ones come to mind are like the wood trying to walk off the blade, especially with miters. Or the material actually closing up and binding the blade the further you get into the cut.

Knots have there own bag of tricks they sometimes play and you never know which one it is until it is about to or is happening. Small pieces of wood can be good for an unexpected surprise too.

I guess what Iím saying is there is more than just simple common sense involved with table saw safety. A novice with all of the common sense in world will never replace experience. The experienced know to always expect the unexpected with a table saw.
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Have been woodworking for many years. Never had a problem. Always follow the rules.
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Have been woodworking for many years. Never had a problem. Always follow the rules.
Although I quoted you Rusty my comments werenít pointed at you.

Iím glad to here youíve never had problems. You must not have to deal with very much green wood.
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No way I would cut green wood on my cabinet saw.
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I met the guy that invented the Saw Stop years ago at a trade show ( national hardware show or builders show, i forget which). I spent some time talking to him and he told a pretty amazing story as he thought for sure the tool companies would be lining up to license this technology but he found that no one would touch it because of the added liability in promoting a safer table saw.

I know at that point he'd sunk a fortune into developing and promoting this so it's nice to see he's finally gaining a little traction
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I read on one of the wood working forums, that every time the stop works, there is an expensive part that must be replaced. Any one know if this is true?
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Yea, there is definetly a part that needs to be replaced after any use ( think: air bag in a car) but I have no idea what the cost is. I guess it's got to be cheaper than a workmans comp claim or trip to the ER

EDIT: just looked it up online, only looked at the first site that i found that had them for sale, the replacement cartridge was $69 which is still pretty cheap if you aren't setting off false alarms
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So if the device is accidentally triggered then the saw is rendered useless until the device can be renewed???

That's real handy.

Obviously a gizmo for the home-hobbyist and not useful on a job somewhere by a serious contractor.

No wonder the damned thing hasn't gone anywhere.

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