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Old 11-27-2012, 01:32 PM   #1
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So in our nicotine-infested house we've been priming everything with BIN, Coverstain, and 1-2-3. We had to use BIN in most of the main living areas. We painted a 2'x2' square of the 123 on all the walls and ceilings left (bedrooms) to see if any brown/orange was bleeding through and a couple of the bedrooms were fine. In those rooms, we went ahead and used the 123 on ceilings and walls and then painted. The ceiling is painted in an off-white SW ceiling paint, and after 2 coats the 2x2 spot (essentially, the spot primed twice) is still showing very clearly through the paint. What did we do wrong?

If that was confusing: spot showing= 2 coats of 123, 2 coats of SW ceiling paint. Rest of the ceiling, 1 coat of 123, 2 coats of paint.

The guy at SW said it would be fine with 1 coat of ceiling paint, since we were priming it first. (and I had explained to him the whole 2x2 sections of primer all over, too)

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Old 11-27-2012, 01:41 PM   #2
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I would have thought that the full coat of 123 would even it out too- what is happening is because the spot is more sealed than the rest, it is "flashing".
How light hits ceilings can amplify the issue.

Did you just paint it? ( like today) ..
Because it is more sealed, it will take longer to dry.

Was the ceiling paint a super flat or does it have some sheen?


Ceilings can be buggers...

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Maybe it was just not totally dry, yet...it had been painted in the morning, I was noticing it late afternoon. You can see it from the hallway looking in, and there's a window across the room that throws some weird light in during the afternoon, so I'm sure the lighting is playing a big part. It's just annoying that it's the ONLY part of the ceiling you really see if you're going to stand outside the room and look up. It's labeled as a flat paint, and there doesn't seem to be much sheen to it.

Should I just wait a few days then and see if it all dries evenly?
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Are you still draped off? if you are, give the spot another shot of the flat- feather out so not hard edges-
Otherwise give it at least overnight .
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Are you still draped off? if you are, give the spot another shot of the flat- feather out so not hard edges-
Otherwise give it at least overnight .
Do you mean another layer on the whole ceiling or (as I read your post) just feather out around the spot itself? Thanks!!
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1-2-3, if you look closely, actually has a sheen to it, somewhat like an eggshell. That being said, if you covered it with a flat ceiling paint, it's like painting flat over satin, so yes, two full coats, IMO is gonna reduce that flashing of the primer. Be sure to really load up that roller and put some paint on that ceiling. Your roller cover should ALMOST be dripping with paint before each pass on the ceiling.
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Just the spot. But first- on second thought.. just give it a bit more time. Put a fan on it might speed things along. If the flat is truly flat it might come around.
You did the right things. But sometimes the right things aren't enough. Then you gotta get tactical on its a$$.
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You did the right things. But sometimes the right things aren't enough. Then you gotta get tactical on its a$$.
That's hilarious---and between horrid smelling primers and nasty diaper changes, I feel like my life revolves around smells that make me sick. Thanks for letting me feel like I've done SOMETHING right in all this chaos.
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I think that shiner will flatten out over time.

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