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Old 08-15-2012, 02:06 PM   #1
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Our cabinets have been painted over before, but the existing black paint easily sands and washes off.

We have cleaned them and sanded most of the existing paint off. I am getting hung up because I can't decide on our primer/paint.
The guy at Sherwin Williams recommended ProClassic, and I've seen BM's Advance and Waterbourne satin impervo mentioned here. I'm a new painter, so basically I'm looking for the one that would be easiest to work with for someone at my skill level. We are brushing/rolling it on.

I have zinsser oil cover stain to prime them with. Would that be ok or is there a better primer out there for my situation.

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Old 08-15-2012, 02:14 PM   #2
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An alkyd primer would be my choice. Just make sure to do the prep work, especially in a kitchen. You want everything spotless and free of dirt and grease or you will have adhesion problems.

I would go with the Ben Moore waterbased Impervo but any of the products you mentioned will do fine. Remember it takes waterbased enamels 30 days to fully cure. I would not use an oil based finish if painting black because of the natural tendancy of oil products to chalk.

If you are going with black, I would get a factory mixed black. It can be difficult to get tinted blacks to mix thoroughly into tint bases. And be sure to stir and, stir frequently during your work. Do not just depend on the shaker at the paint store.

Of course you want to use good equipment including nice quality sash brushes (I liked the angled ones best and 2.5 was a nice size for most things). Good Wooster or Purdy brushes will set you back $15-20 retail but you will have them a long time if you take care of them.

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Black ( and most really dark colors) are tough to formulate so they won't burnish. There is so much pigment in it that it is more exposed.
I think that the Gennex tint system ( BM Aura, Advance and maybe even Regal Select ) uses a tint that is more a part of the resin than sits "around" the resin..
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Thanks everyone. We are painting the cabinets white, right now they are currently black/brown. So no worries about dark colors
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Our cabinets have been painted over before, but the existing black paint easily sands and washes off.

We have cleaned them and sanded most of the existing paint off. I am getting hung up because I can't decide on our primer/paint.
The guy at Sherwin Williams recommended ProClassic, and I've seen BM's Advance and Waterbourne satin impervo mentioned here. I'm a new painter, so basically I'm looking for the one that would be easiest to work with for someone at my skill level. We are brushing/rolling it on.

I have zinsser oil cover stain to prime them with. Would that be ok or is there a better primer out there for my situation.
Hi - I've been repainting my kitchen cabinets and am starting on the bath using the Pro Classic. I'm not a professional painter by any means but this is also not my first rodeo with a paint brush. I've found the ProClassic, while a nice paint, to be pretty technique sensitive, very easy to over work. I am using gloss white and I'm sure the sheen emphasizes the errors. At $60/gal I'm pretty well committed to at least another half a gallon of the stuff but will be looking for a more user friendly material.
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All the new waterbornes have a learning curve, some more than others.
A -little- bit of water or extender does help.
I think the most user friendly and also nice finish of the lot is Muralo- if you can find it.
jsch- you are making life hard by using a gloss- but it can be done...
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use an oil. .. impervo or proclassic oil. the abrasion resistance is Far superior to any waterbased. dries slower. . . .levels out better. just pull off the doors and do them flat so the paint levels perfectly. do the frame with multiple LIGHT coats brushed with a purdy or corona brand ox-hair brush.
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use an oil. .. impervo or proclassic oil. the abrasion resistance is Far superior to any waterbased. dries slower. . . .levels out better. just pull off the doors and do them flat so the paint levels perfectly. do the frame with multiple LIGHT coats brushed with a purdy or corona brand ox-hair brush.

Will it yellow? I'm painting the cabinets BM's "white dove". Its an off white with a grayish tint. It's not a bright white, but I've read that oil can yellow over time. Would that be an issue?
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We used Killz primer and Ace "White high gloss paint". Tough as nails and easy to clean. Been there 13 years and looks great.
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[quote=Hazelnut3;989965]Will it yellow? I'm painting the cabinets BM's "white dove". Its an off white with a grayish tint. It's not a bright white, but I've read that oil can yellow over time. Would that be an issue?[/quote]


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[quote=Brushjockey;989736]All the new waterbornes have a learning curve, some more than others.
A -little- bit of water or extender does help.
I think the most user friendly and also nice finish of the lot is Muralo- if you can find it.
jsch- you are making life hard by using a gloss- but it can be done...[/quote]


Hi BJ - I'm pretty aware of that, SWMBO doesn't see it that way
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All the new waterbornes have a learning curve, some more than others.
A -little- bit of water or extender does help.
I think the most user friendly and also nice finish of the lot is Muralo- if you can find it.
jsch- you are making life hard by using a gloss- but it can be done...[/quote]


Hi BJ - I'm pretty aware of that, SWMBO doesn't see it that way

Have her paint one, she might change her mind
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