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tavernwood 10-10-2007 02:05 PM

Wood Step Repaint quickly gone bad..
 
Greetings,

Hopeing to learn from my mistake, I'm curious if anyone can let me know how my freshly painted wood steps blistered big time when it rained two days later after the paint job was finished.

The wood was sanded to smooth out any feathering, and clean the bare wood. The bare wood parts were then primered, and two coats of Weatherbeater Latex Enamel Deck/Floor paint applied on the steps over two days. Two days later it rains, and the next morning we wake up to blisters all over the place.

Any help, or information is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

slickshift 10-10-2007 07:57 PM

Well, you don't say what primer, which could be a major issue
But #2 is using paint on a place with foot traffic (should be stain)
#3 is buying paint from a Dept. Store

Remove all the loose, badly adhering coating and primer you can
Then go to a Paint Store and get the appropriate products that they carry and suggest to fix what you have left (do the scraping/sanding first...your next step will depend on what you end up with)
Doesn't matter if it's Ben Moore, Cabot, Sikkens....just as long as it's not a Paint Dept. at a Big Box or Dept. Store

tavernwood 10-11-2007 12:41 PM

[quote=slickshift;67494]Well, you don't say what primer, which could be a major issue
But #2 is using paint on a place with foot traffic (should be stain)
#3 is buying paint from a Dept. Store

Thanks for replying. After your reply, and reading through many of the notes in this forum, I understand now to stay away from department store products, and primer's like killz2 that I used. Another point I found upon inspection after it stopped raining is the bubbles were only where I primered the wood. Both products I used were latex based, so I'm curious as to why that is. The other areas are holding ok.

I understood going in that I would have to, and have been repainting the steps every two years using paint. I'll ask the paint store about staining the steps with a solid stain like I've used on decks before. Although, I recall having to redo those every few years as well due to foot traffic, and weather.

Workaholic 10-11-2007 06:23 PM

If you used pressure treated wood there could also of been to much moisture in the wood.
A quality primer leads to a quality finish.

slickshift 10-12-2007 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tavernwood (Post 67593)
...I found upon inspection after it stopped raining is the bubbles were only where I primered the wood. Both products I used were latex based, so I'm curious as to why that is.

Well...Kilz2 was probably not the best primer to use for this app
It's a 'stain blocker', where this app calls for adhesion
And Kilz2 itself has a high failure rate anyway....on walls that don't get walked on, so it's double trouble here
Pick your poison, wrong primer, poor product
Either way the moisture go in there and it bubbled (which is what latex does with a moisture problem)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tavernwood (Post 67593)
I understood going in that I would have to, and have been repainting the steps every two years using paint. I'll ask the paint store about staining the steps with a solid stain like I've used on decks before. Although, I recall having to redo those every few years as well due to foot traffic, and weather.

Mmmm......welllll......
It's not that specifically....
The solid stain grips the substrate better
That's one reason it's better for stairs
It also has less tendency to crack and peel under harsh conditions, or when not maintained
It tends to fade and de-gloss instead

I can't tell you if the paint or stain would last 2 years or 4 in your specific case, but either one would need a maint. coat every so often

The point is stain would last longer outside, and wouldn't peel (requiring more prep), and would hold up considerably better underfoot


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