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chicuniques 08-14-2009 08:30 PM

Why is eggshell poly drying glossy?
 
Hi all,

I'm using a stain with poly in it (polyshades, I believe) and I got through my bathroom cabinetry without a hitch, dried nice and eggshell. NOW, I started my kitchen cabinets and it's drying glossy.

Is there anything I can do to revive the eggshell finish? Should I just get a pure eggshel poly and go over it all once I finish the staining?

Thanks for any advise you can offer.

Nikki

TheDIYerGuy 08-14-2009 11:01 PM

Hey chicuniques! Well my guess is that you have two different products. Polyshades, from Minwax comes in two sheens, or gloss levels. You have Satin (the more dull one) and Gloss (obviously the shinier one). Did you use the same can that you finished your bathroom with? If yes, it should be labeled Satin. The other thing to consider is how many coats you have applied. The Polyshades line is very dull after only one coat, but apply another and BAM, it instantly gets shinier. Now to answer your last question, is there a way to "dull- down" a finish? You bet! Just use a no-rinse TSP substitute and either buy the ready to use spray, or get the concentrate and wipe down your cabinets about a week or two after you have finished them. TSP substitute is really just a strong detergent and does a great job of cheaply, safely, and quickly deglossing a surface. Just keep in mind that in kitchens and bathrooms although a less glossy sheen looks good, it might not stand up as well to the challenges those areas can give out. Hope that helps!

chicuniques 08-14-2009 11:15 PM

Hi, thanks for trying to make it simple, but you could give me a little more credit next time. ;-)

Anyway, I wish one of your ideas could be it but...

It is Minwax Polyshades in Satin. It is the only stain I have in my 3 shelves of paint in my garage so there's no way I could mix them up.

I have one coat on everything.

I've used TSP to clean the kitchen cabinets. Won't that take the nice fresh stain off? I'm afraid I'll have to put another coat if I do that and then they'll be shinier.

I would never have shiny cabinets even in my bathroom or kitchen no matter how they 'stand up'.

I'm not sure how versed you are in this but could the cold garage over the winter (I'm in IL) have screwed it up at all? I shook it since it sat for a few months, but maybe I should mix it better? Do you think any of those things could effect the finish?

Thanks for tryin, Nikki

TheDIYerGuy 08-14-2009 11:36 PM

Hey sure, and not to insult your intelligence, I just go from the ground usually, just in case! If you use that TSP after the Polyshades coat has cured (48-72 hours) it should not act as a "stripper" per se, onl a deglosser. Your garage may very well be the culprit if it is not insulated. Have you noticed if other things freeze in your garage? If so your poly may have frozen and then thawed, pretty deadly in paint and stain world. Also try not to shake polys as it can actually create small bubbles that wreak havok on any finished result. Try stirring it with a paint stick and "pulling" the colorant up from the bottom to get it mixed up again. If you noticed any difference in how hard it was to apply, chances are you poly has chemically changed and may not dry the same as it did before, hence your sheen difference. And yes, one coat should be enough to protect your cabinets in both environments, but after that it comes down to preference! :P

chicuniques 08-15-2009 08:24 AM

Thanks, I really do think it was to cold. Luckily this stuff is pretty inexpensive, I'll just go buy a new can so I don't continue to get frustrated. Now that I think back, it did seem a little thicker going on so, even though it looks fine, I think it's best to get new to complete the kitchen.

Thanks again,

Nikki

TheDIYerGuy 08-15-2009 10:55 AM

Definitely, and good luck!

NCpaint1 08-18-2009 08:50 AM

DID YOU STIR IT? It sounds stupid I know, but even if the product sits for a few hours it will need to be stirred. All poly's start out as gloss, then they have different materials added to make them dull ( satin, eggshell, matte ) these materials settle very quickly, and need to be stirred often. My guess is thats what is happening.

chicuniques 08-18-2009 12:30 PM

Thanks, it doesn't sound stupid, basic but not stupid. :-)

I ended up buying a new can which gave me the opportunity to go with a different color so it worked out perfectly. :-)

Thanks for the input!


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