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Jyncks 07-20-2013 05:26 PM

What primer should i use?
 
Hi all, new to this forum and to painting. I am repainting the all of the walls in my home. They are old plaster walls with cracks and holes and an ugly orange peel texture. I am attempting a level 5. Probably end up with a 4.x.:) Anyway I have the skim coat on in one bedroom and I have taken pain staking efforts to make it perfect. Shooting for no imperfections. Plan on using a SW eggshell paint and was wondering what the best primer would be to get the smoothest finish. I have read that gaurdz can be used as primer with awesome results. Any recommendations will be appreciated.

Matthewt1970 07-20-2013 07:35 PM

Guardz is more for a moisture barrier. When you are at SW get a gallon of the Promar200 primer. Great stuff.

Jyncks 07-20-2013 07:47 PM

Thanks for the reply Matthew. do you have an opinion on their Cashmere paint? It says it level nice and is good for beginners.

ben's plumbing 07-20-2013 07:51 PM

sw promar paint and primer are great products for pros and homeowners alike...ben sr

Jyncks 07-20-2013 08:31 PM

Thanks Ben. I`m heading there tomorrow for their 40% off sale.:thumbsup:

KD PAINTING 07-20-2013 08:59 PM

What primer should i use?
 
Zinsser 123 primer works great as well..Good Luck!

Jyncks 07-20-2013 10:07 PM

I actually tried 123. It left a bad orange peel on the wall. I`m sure it was due to my technique more than anything. That stuff just would not sand well for me. I had to skim coat the wall again. Thought I`d give something else a try.

Jyncks 07-21-2013 08:37 AM

Thanks for all of the replies. I think I`m going to try the Gardz and 2 coats of Cashmere out. I'm sure all of the products mentioned do a fine job with the right tools used in the right hands. I'm a noob and I'm sure there's going to be some trial and error before I find what works best for me. I don't mind spending the extra money. I firmly believe in you get what you pay for. Enjoy your Sunday.

DrHicks 07-21-2013 08:41 AM

^ Don't be thrown by it, if you get a can of the "clear" Gardz. It looks a touch milky going on, but dries clear. It's not your typical primer. You might also have to be extra careful to avoid any roller lines.

Light touch. You'll do fine!

Jyncks 07-22-2013 09:14 AM

I am not taking sides here. I have read that using gardz will work great for a primer on alot if sites. Jack Pauhl (don't know him from Adam) did some testing with primers. He had alot of pics showing different things used as primer. The photo showing gardz used as primer was awesome. What are your reasons for not using gardz? The only downfall i can see so far is it's thin and tricky to apply. But like anything, alittle practice and....

Jmayspaint 07-22-2013 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyncks
I am not taking sides here. I have read that using gardz will work great for a primer on alot if sites. Jack Pauhl (don't know him from Adam) did some testing with primers. He had alot of pics showing different things used as primer. The photo showing gardz used as primer was awesome. What are your reasons for not using gardz? The only downfall i can see so far is it's thin and tricky to apply. But like anything, alittle practice and....

Jack Paul's primer tests are very interesting to me also. Having used many different drywall primers over the years, I really think most of them are worthless. Some like Zinsser 123 actually seal the surface. I haven't used Gardz yet, but from what I've read and seen it does seals the surface.

Will22 07-22-2013 02:24 PM

Although the primers here are fine, a level 5 finish is achieved by using a specialty high-build primer. It provides a level 5 finish, which does not show the tape joints and seams.

Jyncks 07-22-2013 03:30 PM

Pauhl says you can get a level 5 with Gardz. There is no doubt everyone on here knows a lot more about this than I do. I don't think that I need a high build because of the effort that I am taking to make sure there are no imperfections. Using a bright lite and endless sanding, I'm sure due to my inexperience with laying mud on walls. I'm going to try the Gardz and see what happens. Until then, the sanding continues.:(

chrisn 07-22-2013 05:35 PM

You will never, ever get a level 5 finish from a primer. The wall needs to darn near perfect before any primer goes on. Also, don't believe everything you read on JP's site

Jyncks 07-22-2013 06:16 PM

I would say a level 5 is more to do with the prep more than anything else. But certainly a product of the whole process. Being a first timer, I don't expect to get a perfect finish but rather, the best I can get doing it myself.


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