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Old 09-29-2008, 10:43 PM   #1
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I've started removeing wallpaper in my bathroom. The wallpaper is coming down pretty easily with the dif however even after I wipe it down there seems to be glue on the walls. How much of the glue do I have to get off. Also if i can not remove all the glue can I prime and it will be fine?? and if I prime should I use gardtz or a oil primer (they say there are 2 kinds fast dry and slow dry)?? I'm confused!! thanks

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You need to remove all of the paste (it's not glue...er...it shouldn't be glue anyways)
Scrape with a putty/taping knife, and sand if needed

If you absolutely can not remove it all (it happens), then coat with Zinsser's Gardz
It will harden any lumpies so you can knock them down or sand them
Repair with a skim of joint compound if needed to smooth, and sand smooth
Re-prime any repair areas (or the whole thing if there are many)
The re-prime can be a quality acrylic primer or Gardz if you still have some left over

Use a quality self priming Kitchen and Bath paint such as BM or SW K&B, Zinsser's Perma-White, or BM's Aura (<-not bath specific but self-priming and mold/mildew resistant and extremely wash-able)

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What he said!
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Old 09-30-2008, 02:38 PM   #4
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Ditto.
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Thanks all!! Just another couple of questions...in the past I used a fast drying primer over wallpaper "paste" was that the wrong thing to do?? And why not spackle before you gardts the first time?? Wouldn't it save you from having to gardtz twice??
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A fast dry alkyd is an acceptable replacement if Gardz is not available

You may save a step by "spackling" before Gardzing, but you increase the chance of failure tremendously
So it really would not be a good idea
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Just curious what kind of failure can happen??
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we just finished taking down all the wallpaper in our new house--what a PITA. We used vinegar and warm water--I didn't feel the DIF did as good a job. Anyhooo, we are reskimming everything and sanding over it to get the smooth finish, priming it and then painting
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But according to the folks on this forum you need to prime/gardtz then skim coat then prime/gardtz again or you might have a failure. Just wondering what failure will happen...since I've done it the wrong way in my other bathroom...yiks!!
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If you do not prime before skimming, any residual paste you may not have gotten off can turn loose when the wet mud hits it and will not adhere. You end up pulling a lot of "trash" and will have to prime and skim those places again. Your final coat of paint can also soften up the paste and mud causing bubbling if not properly sealed with primer.
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Thanks for the information!!

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