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12-21-2012, 02:29 PM
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Ugh, pine sap seeping through trim paint
I redid my attic window trim with select pine, which I primed and painted with three coats of (pure) white latex. It's been about six months, and some of the boards are starting to yellow! I'm guessing it's sap from the wood making its way through the paint. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to stop the process, and return my trim to a clean white?
The windows on this old house are no longer square to the wall, so I had to do a lot of fancy carpentry to fit the trim. I'd really like to avoid suggestions that involve me redoing it (though next time I'm using MDF!)
Thanks in advance.
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12-21-2012, 03:40 PM
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Ugh, pine sap seeping through trim paint
It's tannin acid. The only solution is to coat the affected areas with Zinsser BIN. It's an alcohol based pigmented shellac. You can get quarts of it at HD. Use a nylon bristle brush and do clean up with ammonia. It dries quickly, very quickly, so you'll have figure out how to work with it without making a mess. Good luck and check back with any questions.
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12-21-2012, 05:43 PM
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Ugh, pine sap seeping through trim paint
If you used Kilnz primer, there's the problum.
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12-21-2012, 07:00 PM
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Kilnz are where they fire pottery. And actually, if he used oil Kilz, he would have bought himself some more time. Oil will hold back tannin longer than latex but not as long as shellac.
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12-21-2012, 09:50 PM
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Ugh, pine sap seeping through trim paint
Kilz is actually pretty good at holding out tannin bleed from pine. Maybe not a first choice, but certainly adequate.
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12-22-2012, 06:17 AM
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[quote=joecaption;1077619]If you used Kilnz primer, there's the problum .[/quote]
WRONG again as usual. Joe, please, please ,please, please, please,please ,a thousand times, please
1) Hit the spell check icon( the ABC thing in the upper right hand corner)
2) Stop posting on painting topics of which you have no knowledge
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Kilz is actually pretty good at holding out tannin bleed from pine. Maybe not a first choice, but certainly adequate.
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I have seen it bleed though many times,
BIN, never
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12-22-2012, 07:44 AM
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Ugh, pine sap seeping through trim paint
..spell check doesn't know brand names chris...
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..spell check doesn't know brand names chris...
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Here- Kilz spelled correctly still looks like a problem...
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It would know "problum" and "exohost" fan though, just sayin.
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Hey- I'm not backing JC's speeling! ( Or mine sometimes..)
But chris has learned to use fancy letters- lol
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Hey- I'm not backing JC's speeling! ( Or mine sometimes..)
But chris has learned to use fancy letters- lol
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12-22-2012, 02:36 PM
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Ugh, pine sap seeping through trim paint
Thanks for the Shellac advice. Can I apply it over the existing latex, or do I have to strip back down to bare wood?
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12-22-2012, 04:01 PM
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Over should be no problem
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