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scarrylarry 06-08-2010 06:57 PM

Trim first or walls
 
I think I read somewhere that you should paint your trim first before the walls.I think I have donne it both way's .What does it matter?
Thanks
scarrylarry

oh'mike 06-08-2010 07:04 PM

Trim first for me.-----I find it easier to cut the walls to the trim.

firehawkmph 06-08-2010 07:48 PM

Ditto on the trim first. If you want to tape it off to paint the walls, give it a day to dry. Use the blue painters tape.
Mike Hawkins:)

Leah Frances 06-08-2010 09:46 PM

I do light colors before dark combined with high surfaces before low - regardless of trim or walls. I do this because it's easier to cover a light mistake with dark paint rather than a dark mistake with light paint. Also working from the top down helps minimize problems with contrasting drips.

Also, I NEVER tape anymore and I ain't no pro. I just spent 60 hours painting this room with only a steady hand a good sash brush:
http://www.diychatroom.com/members/l...aint-after.jpg

The room's about 30x7 with nine foot ceilings.

scarrylarry 06-08-2010 10:33 PM

Trim or walls
 
Thanks to all three of you for your replies.Man I'm kinda liking this site,real fast on the replies.Again I thank you all!
Leah that's quite the room!! Love all the white millwork!
I usually don't use tape either after I found out what a sash brush was.I like those Purdy brushes expensive but nice to use.
What's the dif between the blue tape and the green painters tapes?
Thanks
scarrylarry

Leah Frances 06-08-2010 11:02 PM

The green 'frog' tape allegedly contains an hydrophilic compound in the adhesive that is 'activated' by the wet paint and causes the tape adhesive to swell and seal - it's supposed to prevent bleed-under.

There are more than one kind of blue tape - the stuff with the orange label is for delicate surfaces.

I tried the green - shrug - not really impressed - meh

I buy and use the blue regular tape for a multitude of purposes - today I used it to tape kraft paper to my picnic table for crabs, to tape together and label a bundle of sheets that I had to mail, to draw a smile on and stick it to my neighbor kid's shirt, labeled a breaker 'used' 2010, you name it. I'll tape it. Just not for painting purposes.

And yes, this site ROCKS. Please feel free to join in on the awesomeness.

hennyh 06-09-2010 08:59 AM

I also try to avoid the use of any tape. IMHO you can cut in better and get a better end result. Tape tends to leave a little ridge, is time consuming and can be difficult to apply/align perfectly.

Just use good paint and a quality brush.

I try to gradually cut in and then go as far as the paint will allow and then repeat the process. You can get a really nice border this way.

scarrylarry 06-25-2010 05:57 PM

Rollering problems?
 
Okay,I screwed up here.I have 2 coats of Behr 100% Acrylic Latex on the walls and I'm not happy with how it turned out.It's raised/textured in some places for lack of betterr words.I must have rolled it too many times as it was drying.Temperature here is around 70 F., the walls were washed,lightly sanded with fine grit sandpaper and vacuumed and wiped down with wet cloth.So do I live with it or sand lightly and recoat.I used an older roller that was in good shape but maybe the nap was not right.Paint calls for a 10-13mm nap.Any thoughts please.
Thanks
scarrylarry

oh'mike 06-25-2010 08:31 PM

Beahr paint is to thick--It doesn't flow flat,has a real tendency to leave an uneven texture.

I suggest that you give up on that paint --Most pros won't touch it --buy some good paint and call it a lesson learned.--Mike--

scarrylarry 06-25-2010 09:32 PM

Okay, Benjimin Moore is way too much money for us.So what would you recommend for next time?In Canada and near my location we have,Sicco,CIL,Geeeez.I'm having a mental block right now,I know several other brands that you would have down there, but they escape me right now,
Thanks
scarrylarry

Regarding my above posts.Allright, I'm sure this gets asked a zillion times but what paint do the pros choose?Isn't that sort of asking a carpenter what brand of power tools he likes?
Thanks
scarrylarry

oh'mike 06-25-2010 09:48 PM

Do you have a paint store near by where the pros shop?
That's where to buy.--In our area the good paint is Sherwin Williams and Benjamin Moore--

There are many good paint brands--

You made an allusion to carpenters tools---more like the wood a carpenter would choose.

Most times the painter includes the paint in the cost of the job----If a cheaper paint could give a top quality job why would the painter choose any thing more expensive?

Believe me,I resent the prices of good paint,but look what that cheap paint is costing you.

----Mike---

scarrylarry 06-25-2010 10:14 PM

Mike,Thanks for your reply! We have both those paint stores within minutes of us.
Lawrence

oh'mike 06-25-2010 10:25 PM

I didn't want you beating yourself up when it not your fault.

The two nastiest paints to apply are Behr and Ralf Lauren----

I know you hate to ditch the paint--expensive lesson.---

----Mike-----

By the way,I do not consider my self a painter. Although I have done professional painting--
I do not have the patience or the knowledge that a full time pro has achieved.

My hat's off to the real pros here.

scarrylarry 06-28-2010 08:30 AM

Mike and all others who have responded on this thread.
You know I'm wondering if I have over rolled the paint,what I mean by that is that maybe I went over paint as it was already starting to dry,thus starting to pull it up off the wall.In my opinion it's pretty hard to get it exactly right until you watch a real pro do it.I wonder how big a fact the nap of the roller plays into the scheme of things?
Thanks again to all of you for responding
scarrylarry

iceracer 06-30-2010 08:04 AM

I just tried Sherwin Williams paint for the first time a couple of days ago and I have to say I was impressed. Good flow, high hiding. I noticed I was the only "amateur" in the store as well, everyone else there was a pro painter.

And in Ontario at least, 40% off paint till the end of the week.

About the only time I use tape these days is against 1/4 round or base board against a floor, I work with a less loaded brush for those areas.

Terry


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