Forums | Home Repair | Home Improvement | Painting | Interior Decorating | Remodeling | Landscaping


Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Painting

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 08-11-2011, 09:01 PM   #1
Member
 
MikeKy55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Louisville KY
Posts: 309
Share |
Default

Trim caulking before paint?


Anyone care to share some tips on caulking new trim before painting the first time? Still working on the basement project....... I'm installing doors and base now. I know I will need to caulk the base where it meets the walls in some spots. My question is, do you caulk everything? tricks to limit the amount of mess and/or waste? The trim will all be white when I'm done. Thanks in advance.
MikeKy55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2011, 09:09 PM   #2
Painting Company, NY
 
housepaintingny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 945
Blog Entries: 14
Default

Trim caulking before paint?


Cut the tip at a 45 degree angle and don't cut it to large. Hold the caulk gun at an angle and use a wet rag to wipe away excess. Once you caulk for a while you will get the feel for the caulk gun and won't waste much.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
housepaintingny is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to housepaintingny For This Useful Post:
MikeKy55 (08-11-2011)
Old 08-11-2011, 09:14 PM   #3
Rubbin walls since'79
 
Brushjockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Mn
Posts: 2,518
Default

Trim caulking before paint?


If it's new wood, or your painting over varnish(which needs to be sanded first), prime, caulk and fill holes-depending on topcoat- either re prime (because of spackle- or spot prime spackle), and 2 top coats of finish.
You will see what needs it so much easier after prime.
caulking isn't easy- use sparingly and wipe it first with a finger, then a damp rag to get excess .
Brushjockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2011, 09:23 PM   #4
Member
 
MikeKy55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Louisville KY
Posts: 309
Default

Trim caulking before paint?


Thanks to both of you. I should have mentioned I'm using preprimed 3.5 inch base. I figured I would need to prime it all again before painting. I would like for it to be pretty slick when done.
MikeKy55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2011, 01:16 AM   #5
Member
 
m1951mm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: SW Ohio
Posts: 494
Default

Trim caulking before paint?


Before applying your caulk make sure that any joint compound around the baseboards is primed also. Caulk will not hold to raw drywall mud. I am in the camp of using a finger to smooth the caulk into the joint and then wipe with damp rag.
m1951mm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2011, 04:08 AM   #6
paper hanger and painter
 
chrisn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Hagerstown MD
Posts: 6,509
Default

Trim caulking before paint?


Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeKy55 View Post
Thanks to both of you. I should have mentioned I'm using preprimed 3.5 inch base. I figured I would need to prime it all again before painting. I would like for it to be pretty slick when done.


Very good!
chrisn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2011, 08:41 AM   #7
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Cape May, NJ
Posts: 2,392
Default

Trim caulking before paint?


I like my tips cut below 45 degrees, as I think 45 doesn't give as much pinpoint accuracy. I like the hole to be just wide enough to take a finish nail.
Keep the tip resting on the surface.
Work the trigger with gentle, even, steady pressure. No pumping the trigger.
Keep the gun moving. Your speed is how you adjust the amount applied.
Don't surface fill joints. If you have a decent sized gap, move slower so the gap fills. If you move too fast you'll only apply enough to bridge the gap and the stuff will shrink and open up.
Caulk everything. Technically, all wood joins should be caulked, whether they're gapped or not. What is tight and closed now might not be in six months after settlement, especially important exterior. Also, if you have a stretch of baseboard with caulked/non-caulked sections, it could be noticeable when you're done. Remember, you're altering a surface, and paint highlights altered surfaces.
Use two hands. One on the trigger with the end of the gun cupped in the other, like a shotgun.
Always work backwards into previously caulked areas.
Apply your bead, not getting too far ahead, keep a wet rag, wet your finger to smooth. Wipe the excess on your rag.
If you caulk doorframe mitres, fill the gap and rub it in/wipe with the rag.
When you run down a door frame return, don't stop in the corner at the base, take it out on to the base an inch or two. When the frames are done, just run the base and connect the two door frames.
Be sure that you dust the surface prior to caulking.
For real tight detail work, you can use a small latex brush and a pot of water.
Be mindful not to round your corners. Don't apply too much that you obliterate the 90 degree angle of trim joints.
Use caulk to reinforce the drywall corners. Applying a bead of caulk around the ceiling perimeter also helps to get a nice clean cut line when you're working with high contrast colors.
Get a good quality dripless gun. A cheap caulk gun is the worst possible tool anyone could buy.
I use caulk for a lot of purposes, and I'm pretty anal about how it's applied. There is nothing more detracting to a paint finish than a lousy caulk job. Take your time.
Joe

Oh, and never caulk unprimed wood, gypsum, or other porous surfaces. It will draw the vehicle out of the caulk, it will lose its elasticity, and will fail prematurely. Always putty and caulk after priming.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by jsheridan; 08-12-2011 at 04:35 PM. Reason: add on
jsheridan is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to jsheridan For This Useful Post:
Gary in WA (08-13-2011), Leah Frances (08-12-2011), m1951mm (08-12-2011)
Old 08-12-2011, 08:59 AM   #8
Mod
 
kwikfishron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Kansas (NCK)
Posts: 6,652
Default

Trim caulking before paint?


You can always get a few good caulking tips from this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jXgeSd-57A
__________________
A Picture Is Worth A Thousand Words
Especially In The DIY Chatroom
kwikfishron is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2011, 04:30 PM   #9
paper hanger and painter
 
chrisn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Hagerstown MD
Posts: 6,509
Default

Trim caulking before paint?


Quote:
Originally Posted by kwikfishron View Post
You can always get a few good caulking tips from this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jXgeSd-57A

chrisn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2011, 04:48 PM   #10
Member
 
m1951mm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: SW Ohio
Posts: 494
Default

Trim caulking before paint?


Quote:
Originally Posted by kwikfishron View Post
You can always get a few good caulking tips from this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jXgeSd-57A
You have to be kidding. That paint job would look like dog doo doo if you caulked like that guy did!!!!!!!!!! Oops, I forgot to mention he is for EXPERT Village. Man what a joke.
m1951mm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2011, 05:39 PM   #11
Mod
 
kwikfishron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Kansas (NCK)
Posts: 6,652
Default

Trim caulking before paint?


I thought you all would get a kick out of that.

I personally like the dirt clods hanging off the tip.
__________________
A Picture Is Worth A Thousand Words
Especially In The DIY Chatroom

Last edited by kwikfishron; 08-12-2011 at 05:43 PM.
kwikfishron is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2011, 05:49 PM   #12
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Cape May, NJ
Posts: 2,392
Default

Trim caulking before paint?


I've met guys like that. I worked alongside one one time, a guy in his late fifties, a lifer. I said Charlie, let me show you a trick with that gun. He says leave me alone, what are you doing. I said I'm just trying to show you how to be a better painter. He says, "I don't want to be a better painter." Nuff said Chal. That's legend, and is oft spoken of and relived when I'm in the presence of those on that crew.
Thanks Kwikfish, dirt clods, lol,lol.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
jsheridan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2011, 06:40 PM   #13
NACE Coating Inspector
 
mustangmike3789's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Florida
Posts: 524
Default

Trim caulking before paint?


Quote:
Originally Posted by jsheridan View Post
I've met guys like that. I worked alongside one one time, a guy in his late fifties, a lifer. I said Charlie, let me show you a trick with that gun. He says leave me alone, what are you doing. I said I'm just trying to show you how to be a better painter. He says, "I don't want to be a better painter." Nuff said Chal. That's legend, and is oft spoken of and relived when I'm in the presence of those on that crew.
Thanks Kwikfish, dirt clods, lol,lol.
i work with a complete idiot like that...
mustangmike3789 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2011, 07:22 PM   #14
Mod
 
kwikfishron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Kansas (NCK)
Posts: 6,652
Default

Trim caulking before paint?


Quote:
Originally Posted by mustangmike3789 View Post
i work with a complete idiot like that...
Sorry to hear that, but it's your turn.
__________________
A Picture Is Worth A Thousand Words
Especially In The DIY Chatroom

Last edited by kwikfishron; 08-12-2011 at 07:24 PM.
kwikfishron is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2011, 08:14 PM   #15
Member
 
MikeKy55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Louisville KY
Posts: 309
Default

Trim caulking before paint?


Quote:
Originally Posted by jsheridan View Post
I like my tips cut below 45 degrees, as I think 45 doesn't give as much pinpoint accuracy. I like the hole to be just wide enough to take a finish nail.
Keep the tip resting on the surface.
Work the trigger with gentle, even, steady pressure. No pumping the trigger.
Keep the gun moving. Your speed is how you adjust the amount applied.
Don't surface fill joints. If you have a decent sized gap, move slower so the gap fills. If you move too fast you'll only apply enough to bridge the gap and the stuff will shrink and open up.
Caulk everything. Technically, all wood joins should be caulked, whether they're gapped or not. What is tight and closed now might not be in six months after settlement, especially important exterior. Also, if you have a stretch of baseboard with caulked/non-caulked sections, it could be noticeable when you're done. Remember, you're altering a surface, and paint highlights altered surfaces.
Use two hands. One on the trigger with the end of the gun cupped in the other, like a shotgun.
Always work backwards into previously caulked areas.
Apply your bead, not getting too far ahead, keep a wet rag, wet your finger to smooth. Wipe the excess on your rag.
If you caulk doorframe mitres, fill the gap and rub it in/wipe with the rag.
When you run down a door frame return, don't stop in the corner at the base, take it out on to the base an inch or two. When the frames are done, just run the base and connect the two door frames.
Be sure that you dust the surface prior to caulking.
For real tight detail work, you can use a small latex brush and a pot of water.
Be mindful not to round your corners. Don't apply too much that you obliterate the 90 degree angle of trim joints.
Use caulk to reinforce the drywall corners. Applying a bead of caulk around the ceiling perimeter also helps to get a nice clean cut line when you're working with high contrast colors.
Get a good quality dripless gun. A cheap caulk gun is the worst possible tool anyone could buy.
I use caulk for a lot of purposes, and I'm pretty anal about how it's applied. There is nothing more detracting to a paint finish than a lousy caulk job. Take your time.
Joe

Oh, and never caulk unprimed wood, gypsum, or other porous surfaces. It will draw the vehicle out of the caulk, it will lose its elasticity, and will fail prematurely. Always putty and caulk after priming.

Thanks everyone! But I really appreciate you taking the time to detail this like you did. Saved to my hard drive. I may quote you one day.
MikeKy55 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to MikeKy55 For This Useful Post:
jsheridan (08-12-2011)
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
1st Steps in Painting? Qckrun Painting 7 12-15-2009 12:25 PM
exterior trim paint suggestions AGirlsGottaDoIt Painting 2 03-29-2009 11:06 PM
Removing latex paint from wood trim ulbass Painting 1 03-12-2009 01:19 PM
Painting a room for new baby. Lots of questions. SuperAkuma Painting 15 01-01-2009 10:18 AM
Exterior trim paint is peeling, wood is rotting! firsthomenewb Painting 10 05-15-2008 05:04 PM




Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.