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Thinking of Behr Premium Plus deck/fence stain - good?

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#1 ·
I have a pressure-treated wood deck that I want to protect. The deck was put up last summer so it's still under a year old and no boards have turned gray yet - all are still looking nice and golden.

Home Depot has their Behr Premium Plus stains on sale this week and I was thinking that since they are on sale, and it's their top-end line (I know, Behr isn't a premium product...), that it wouldn't be too bad. It's warrantied for 4 years on decks, 6 years on fences, so it cannot be too bad, can it?

Also, I'm thinking I want to go with a transparent stain to give protection without changing the color of the deck, since I'm not sure I want to stain my entire fence to match the deck (way too much work for one year, LOL!). Do transparent stains/protectors like this work, or would a semi-transparent be required to get decent UV protection?

Lastly, I have an 8x8 shed in one corner of my lot, butted up against the fence. I really don't want to take the shed down to stain that area of fence (it's a real pain to get down, and especially back up). Since the boards facing the shed are basically in perpetual darkness, is stain necessary? Aside from the obvious moisture that the boards are exposed to in that darkness, should I be worried about them? I mean it is only 16' of fence so if later I remove the shed, the boards wouldn't cost much to replace.

Comments/suggestions appreciated - this is an AWESOME forum and I've always got great advice from people here. Thanks for that.

Eric
 
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#64 ·
Before you apply anything the decks should be pressure-washed and given a week to dry out. You can then go after loose nails and do any sanding that is needed. I don't use anything but oil-based or alkyd products on bare wood because I feel they stick so much better than latex. You can buy Cabot or Olympic products at Lowes. I would normally go with Cabot but this last deck I used the Olympic color-tone natural cedar sealer. I sprayed it on with a Graco Nova but you can roll it, mitt it, mop it, or use a garden sprayer. It needed a lot of stirring but really soaked in easy and the look was consistent.
At $23.00/gallon I used four gallons on a 20x30 deck with a wood canopy. You have plenty of time to do this if the weather holds out but you will run into leaf-blown problems if you don't wait for a calm day. Remember to use a cleaner with moldicide when you wash it if you have mold issues.
 
#67 ·
So, I was going to post a update to "my" deck staining experience (this year)..

If I can figure our how to upload a pic with this app, I will.

It turned out great,,applied three coats of sansin, and yeah, not much else to say.. I's very happy with it..

As for all the drying, waiting for a week..bulls@$t, that is what it is..

I know, as soon as I leave, it will be that guy is .. For not waiting blah blah blah..

So, AGAIN, the day I washed the deck it was 32-34, hot hot windy day. So was the next day. My deck is in the sun from 9am on, there was a day of this sun on my deck. It was dry when I applied.

If I was to wait for the POSSIBILITY to get over a week with NO RAIN, after I wash, and to wait another # of days for it to cure,

AND the chance that I was able to pick this 20 days of no rain back in march (when I have to decide when I take my five weeks) seriously, •dude•

Anyway, to summarize:
Sansin
Three coats
 
#73 · (Edited)
I realize this is an old rekindled thread but I guess it still works. Thompson's Water Seal is the work of the devil. It is wax based and will cause you nothing but problems. You will be lucky to get a season out of it and once you put down wax it is going to resist anything else you try to use.

Depending on how much discoloration you have and how much of the natural grain you want showing choose between a sealer with no color, a semi-transparent with pigment added but that will, for the most part, soak into the wood, to a semi-solid stain. I would not use a solid stain on a horizontal deck surface.

 
#74 ·
i hate to keep trying to pimp out a product . .. . but look into Rymar Xtreme weather. it makes messmers, sikkens, deckscapes, cabots look bad. Again, I live in the Aspen area. . .we are at 9000ft elevation getting punished with UV and moisture. it lasts longer than anything else up here. . .it is low voc oil. . it has mosquito repellant built in, teflon resin, all in a semi-trans oil stain.
 
#75 ·
Just the Worst

Behr was a multiple thousand dollar mistake for us. We have an 800 foot long driveway, plus fencing around the house perimeter, of Jumbo Cedar Split Rail. You can imagine the linear feet. After purchasing huge container after container of Behr stain from Home Depot, we began application. Before the job was even finished we could see we had a problem with adhesion. Within just a few months the stain was peeling off the fence. What the heck is STAIN doing PEELING? We were just sick.... after all that power washing to prep and a meticulous application. It was just an eyesore and really made the property look shabby. So we hired a deck refinisher who spent hours and hours chemically treating the posts and rails to remove the Behr as best as he could, then he followed up with another product, which has been far superior. With what the removal process cost us, we COULD HAVE BUILT AN ENTIRE NEW FENCE. We went through the removal so that we would not have to re-dig millions of holes again, plus the down time was unacceptable with livestock within the fence. Never, never consider this product. It is cheap crap. Other than the anxiety and money lost over this, I have the additional regret of a reminder every day when I can see that Behr :censored: peering through from crannies under the new finish.
 
#78 ·
After 4 years, I think this thread has out lived it usefulness, and the OP's question has been answered.

Closed, as this is not a why I hate this product site.
 
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