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Old 02-20-2009, 12:43 AM   #16
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2 Things come to mind. 1:Don't use Latex Stain 2:Don't use Behr.

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Bought 5 gallons of Behr Premium Weatherproofing Wood Finish Natural 500 this morning. Just put in 400 feet of milled 6inx6in x 6 foot Texas cedar post fence. Awesome looking ranch style fence across the front of our 4 acre property. I researched the heck out of stains and sealers for cedar fencing. I settled for a water base sealer. Looked at samples of wood that had been treated with every stain under the sun...ddn't like any of the pigmented ones. I wanted a true clear/transparent sealer so that the natural grain and color of the cedar would show through. Running late for work, I left the Behr product with my hired fencer. Came home about an hour ago to find a BROWN PAINTED FENCE!!! "That is not what I purchased!!!!!!", I thought to myself as I drove through my newly installed gate. I ran to the empty 5 gallon bucket of spent "Natural Wood Finish" only to find remnants of the stain. I didn't take the time to pop open the bucket to examine more closely what I had bought...nothing I had read online had prepared me for the look of my finished $3000 fence. Good Grief... I thought I had purchased a "natural", and clear, finish. Just something that would soak into the wood and bring out the grain and "natural" color of the milled cedar. My God! What have I done??? From the few ounces of left-over stain, it appears to be a walnut brown non-transparent latex paint...is there some mistake here? My entire fence is RUINED! There's no way to get that crap off my fence. It's like someone had mixed a brown pigment with Elmer's Glue and painted my beautiful cedar fence! There was absolutely NOTHING on that damn 5 gallon bucket that says anything brown pigment. I thought I was buying a clear, water based sealer...something that looked like, well, WATER...soaks into the wood and brings out the grain, and protects the wood FROM water...
Any suggestions? I feel so STUPID and so RIPPED OFF. Too bad I just now found this website...
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Bought 5 gallons of Behr Premium Weatherproofing Wood Finish Natural 500 this morning. Just put in 400 feet of milled 6inx6in x 6 foot Texas cedar post fence. Awesome looking ranch style fence across the front of our 4 acre property. I researched the heck out of stains and sealers for cedar fencing. I settled for a water base sealer. Looked at samples of wood that had been treated with every stain under the sun...ddn't like any of the pigmented ones. I wanted a true clear/transparent sealer so that the natural grain and color of the cedar would show through. Running late for work, I left the Behr product with my hired fencer. Came home about an hour ago to find a BROWN PAINTED FENCE!!! "That is not what I purchased!!!!!!", I thought to myself as I drove through my newly installed gate. I ran to the empty 5 gallon bucket of spent "Natural Wood Finish" only to find remnants of the stain. I didn't take the time to pop open the bucket to examine more closely what I had bought...nothing I had read online had prepared me for the look of my finished $3000 fence. Good Grief... I thought I had purchased a "natural", and clear, finish. Just something that would soak into the wood and bring out the grain and "natural" color of the milled cedar. My God! What have I done??? From the few ounces of left-over stain, it appears to be a walnut brown non-transparent latex paint...is there some mistake here? My entire fence is RUINED! There's no way to get that crap off my fence. It's like someone had mixed a brown pigment with Elmer's Glue and painted my beautiful cedar fence! There was absolutely NOTHING on that damn 5 gallon bucket that says anything brown pigment. I thought I was buying a clear, water based sealer...something that looked like, well, WATER...soaks into the wood and brings out the grain, and protects the wood FROM water...
Any suggestions? I feel so STUPID and so RIPPED OFF. Too bad I just now found this website...
Mark in the Texas Hill Country (with a butt ugly brown fence)
It is latex. HD80 will take it off mostly. You have to pH balance it after the strip.

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All I know is that I used Behr Premium Semi-Transparent stain on my cedar deck and cedar fence and never had a problem with it. Restained after four years. I also used a watersealer on top. Sorry everyone seems to have bad experiences with it. I never knew it was so bad.
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Behr Exterior paints and stains are meant to be used in the shade only! Exposure to direct sunlight and ultraviolet rays voids the warranty. You must plant trees before you use Behr outdoors.
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Make sure you plant Pine trees or your warranty will be void once Autumn rolls around. lol
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Behr Exterior paints and stains are meant to be used in the shade only! Exposure to direct sunlight and ultraviolet rays voids the warranty. You must plant trees before you use Behr outdoors.

Really?? I bet that print is almost invisible. and if true, that just plain sucks
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Built a new deck last year (2009) - got some opinions from locals and Behr Premium Semi-Transparent Wood Stain was highly recommended. Stained the deck in July and by Fall one board was peeling - no big deal. Now it's March 2010 and the snow has melted so I inspected the deck. 60-75% of the boards are now peeling and it looks like crap! Going to contact Behr and at least try to get the stain money back. Do not buy this product!
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I hope you built your deck in the shade! Did you think I was kidding?
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Last year I refinanced my mortgage to be able to finally add the deck I couldn't afford when I first built 5 years ago. I hired a terrific professional who did a spectacular job building just what I asked for with attention to detail beyond what would have ever occurred to me. The result was a beautiful solid cedar deck with two stairways, railings to match my front porch and a lovely arbor at the farthest point. In the process of trying to find a deck stain color that would compliment the house, I discovered an article about oil base stain and the toxic potential it has when exposed to the elements. The article strongly recommended using water base stain. In his usual meticulous way, my contractor searched and researched what was available in this area and found a water base deck stain with a longer warrantee than any of the oil base stains which also had a very extensive color selection. Being unfamiliar with water base stains, he read everything he could get his hands on and made sure all the exact conditions were right before he applied the stain. Application day was step one of the disaster. Despite his many years of experience and tremendous skills, there was no way to get the stain to apply without running, dripping and puddling. Any attempt to correct these conditions just made matters worse. Late in the day, a slight wind caused the spray to drift high up on the wall of the house, beyond the area that was masked. My perfectionist contractor was devastated. I decided I would live with it and hope that time would lessen the imperfections. I'll repaint the back of the house.
The 4 year warrantee didn't last 4 months and the stain began to chip and disappear off the surface of the deck before I ever had a chance to use it. A decorative area in the center that I had applied with a brush faired even worse than the sprayed area. I hauled out the empty container and got the phone number of the manufacturer which turned out to be Behr. They will replace the stain and provide stripper, conditioner, and some rollers for me to do the job, I just need to purchase them and send in the receipts for a refund. Of course, the actual products are just a fraction of the cost of this disaster. There is no way I can afford to pay someone to do all of this work. On top of that, I have NO confidence in Behr products and I'm terrified to repeat this very expensive mistake by using what they provide!
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"better to leave the walls bare than put Behr on the walls"

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2 Things come to mind. 1:Don't use Latex Stain 2:Don't use Behr.
Must quote myself here. Latex stains just won't stand up to the elements especially on horizontal surfaces and surfaces that will be walked on. My girfriend's deck just went through it's second winter with Behr Latex Deck Stain and it is probably abount 50% peeled off. I would love to just wait a couple more years when it is all peeled off but I have to take care of this disaster this summer.
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Then what do you recommend?

I have behr on my house, garage an deck. The deck will go 2 years before it looks completely worthless. The garage and house are on year 3 and are ready for replacement.

What is a good quality stain for cedar siding and deck stain? Ill be stripping it all off this summer and redoing with something better for sure.
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What is a good quality stain for cedar siding and deck stain? Ill be stripping it all off this summer and redoing with something better for sure.
Sikkens is excellent
Also BM and Sherwin Williams have good products
Cabot's Pro-VT (solid stain) is great for siding, though I haven't used their solid stain for decks since discovering Sikkens
I've also had issues with the new Cabot (EPA mandated lower VOC) reformulated semi's (semi-transparent/solid) on siding last year
I probably won't "spec it" (use on customer's homes) at all this season

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