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Old 04-01-2014, 08:18 AM   #16
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Do you typically sand between every coat? Or just if need be after curing and inspecting? How many light coats? Would it make sense to cost the inside 2-3 and outside one more coat than the insides?

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These are both quality paints, 2 coats is all you should need in or out and yes a light sanding between coats. Since you are using thin coats if you think you need another coat it won't hurt. Just be sure previous is completely dry. And wipe very well after your light sanding.
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I haven't tried the PC hybrid, but I continue to be amazed at how well Advance sprays out.
Despite the possibility of sagging, I find it to be quite forgiving when sprayed compared to acrylics. The longer open time of Advance allows it to flow out, and resist the 'orange peel' effect better than faster drying acrylics.

Multiple light coats is good, but not too light. And don't rush the re coat times.

Tool is right on about the tips, tip size is critical to success. I like a 311-411 (not fine finish) but the FF tips can be easier to control.

I'm on a job right now that's getting Advance gloss on all the trim. Going to tackle the cabinets sometime in the next few days.

Good luck with your project and keep us posted.
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I know this subject has been discussed an absurd amount, so I start off with an apology. For the do it yourself homeowner, which do you suggest? Going to paint regular old oak cabinets to a creamy white. We were stuck on advanced till recently. Now I've been reading so much about people liking pro classic for cabinets. Is one easier to work with for a non-pro? I have access to a sprayer, though that is all I know about it. That it is a sprayer. I don't know if it's airless, hvlp, or what it is. I planned on trying to spray the doors and roll the frames. I don't have a month to leave the kitchen un useable, but I am doing this before we move in. We will be careful but still want it to cure enough in a week or so time to be living there and opening them carefully. A sample door we played with for color and glaze is in BM colors but I'm sure we can match it easy enough to SW. SW will be on sale soon too, but it's not the deciding factor for the cabinet paint. Thanks.
Curious about a couple things. Painting "old oak cabinets", wondering about if you are going to need to prime at all, and if so what would you use?

Also, you mention " for colour and glaze". What is the glaze you are referring to?

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Old as in original to the house. Just oak cabinets, about 12 years old +/-

We were going to sand clean prime and paint.

My wife is going to add some glaze to the details. Just some brown color to "antique" it.
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Two more quickies.

Zinser 123 plus ok? Picked it up last night by accident. Meant to get regular 123 but shelves must have been mixed up a little.

And pre drill knob holes? Or after paint?

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Two more quickies.

Zinser 123 plus ok? Picked it up last night by accident. Meant to get regular 123 but shelves must have been mixed up a little.

And pre drill knob holes? Or after paint?

Thanks again.
Plus will be fine.
I would drill before then sand around the hole.
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Finally Making some progress.

First coat of paint went on frames, trim, and beadboard today. Advance brushed and rolled buttery smooth. We really like it. Doing linen white and going to go back and glaze it with a brown to give it that distressed look. I didn't have any issues with running with the paint like I was worried about.

I'm sure I didn't do things technically correct in terms of trimming the cabinets out, but it is to my wife's taste so it'll be alright. I had to take up 1/4" at the end of two cabinets to shim the crown (due to an over-extension of the face of the cabinet vs the side/end). The side was laminate on top of pressed particle board anyway. I know there are 1/4 shim boards or hobby wood or something that would have worked to shim just the crown, but holding a piece of scrap beadboard up there made her happy. Someone told me beadboard needs to stay below waist level or extend floor to ceiling, but not just in a random place like I put it. Oh well! Hope it doesn't deter potential buyers down the road!

anyways, what so i sand with between coats of advance? Scotch pad? Steel wool? 220? Thanks!
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Happy with advanced.

Finishing up cabinet frames. Goes on nice and smooth. Levels great. You guys had me worried about drips or runs, no issues.

Very happy I didn't go with pro classic. Just used it on chair rail and trim to save a couple bucks over advance. It's not leveling out and definitely gets sticky fast like you guys said. Stickiness doesn't bother me as much as it not leveling out. No matter how light a touch I used I can see my brush marks. Same brushes used for each job, so that can't be to blame. A pro painter is obviously better than I am, but all things similar and common, as a homeowner I'd rather use advance.
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Glad it worked out for you. The secret to pro classic is not to overwork it and believe me that's harder than it sounds. If it was getting sticky that sounds like that is what happened. Just put in on and 1 time pull your brush thru it. Yes you will see brush marks but as it dries these will disappear. Takes a little practice. This is for future reference since you have already bought some.
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You are correct. I posted literally as I finished a coat. It is leveling out better than I imagined after feeling how fast it tacked up. For the novice/homeowner, advance may be worth a few extra bucks for its workability if you can control yourself enough to not get drips/runs.

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