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Old 06-15-2012, 04:22 PM   #1
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Hello! I'm a noob, both to this site and to the world of DIY house stuff. So this is probably a clueless question, but I am very eager to learn.

Recently purchased a 100 year old rowhouse that is completely covered in rather heinous wallpaper. I am gradually stripping the paper, doing minor patching of the plaster underneath, and repainting. The plaster has never been painted before.

My question is about the bathroom. It doesn't have a fan, and although it doesn't get extremely humid in there, I still want to make sure I avoid peeling paint in a few months or years. I'll be painting on raw plaster, and want to ask for some advice about what kind of primer is best to use in there. I have shellac primer, for no other reason than that my mom got some for me. Would this work well for the job in a bathroom? Or should I use some other kind of primer?

I've read that the top coat should be semi-gloss, as a matte or satin finish is more likely to peel.

I appreciate any advice you all might offer.

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After stripping _ and getting as much paste off as you can!- you need to seal back any paste residue before painting. If you have the pigmented shellac- usually a product called BIN- it will work but it is nasty to work with.
My favorite is called Gardz- a clear waterbase sealer. A good oil primer will also work.
Then you can repair- spot prime those and finish with a good quality eggshell or better sheen - and you will be good to go.

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Thanks so much for your advice! The stuff I have is BIN Shellac based primer. (Yes, it stinks to high heaven.) So I think I will go ahead and use that, though I will get some Gardz for future projects.
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Matte or satin or eggshell will not peel anymore than a semi gloss, bad information there. I would go with an eggshell or satin finish, semi gloss on walls looks like a hospital to me, bad memories
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Thanks, chrisn. This is why I joined the site; too much misleading information out there on the internet.
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I've recently seen a few cases of BIN alligatoring after a couple years in unventilated bathrooms. I don't recall ever seeing that problem before I came to the Gulf coast, so it might be climate specific. I'd play it safe and use an acrylic, like Gardz or Bullseye 123. Think about adding an exhaust fan, too.
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I've recently seen a few cases of BIN alligatoring after a couple years in unventilated bathrooms. I don't recall ever seeing that problem before I came to the Gulf coast, so it might be climate specific. I'd play it safe and use an acrylic, like Gardz or Bullseye 123. Think about adding an exhaust fan, too.

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I've recently seen a few cases of BIN alligatoring after a couple years in unventilated bathrooms. I don't recall ever seeing that problem before I came to the Gulf coast, so it might be climate specific. I'd play it safe and use an acrylic, like Gardz or Bullseye 123. Think about adding an exhaust fan, too.
NO, 123 is not sufficent if there is any chance of wallpaper glue getting left behind. Especially in a bathroom.
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NO, 123 is not sufficent if there is any chance of wallpaper glue getting left behind. Especially in a bathroom.
You're right, I missed the wallpaper part. Stick with Gardz. Thanks.
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You're right, I missed the wallpaper part. Stick with Gardz. Thanks.

I missed that also
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Thanks, all, for this suggestion. I'm in central PA, which doesn't get crazy humid. But I think I'll go with the Gardz primer just to be safe(there are plenty of other rooms that will use up the BIN!). I'm not familiar with the brand, so I'm looking at "Gardz Drywall Sealer," "Gardz High Performance Sealer," or "Gardz Problem Surface Sealer." Do you think the High Performance is what I should get?
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As far as I know there all the same thing.
Different print jobs
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Perfect! Thank you, Brushjockey. I'm headed out to pick it up now. I should be all good at this point.

Thanks again to all of you for this advice!
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As far as I know there all the same thing.
Different print jobs
There is actually another label they ship that under as well. They all have the same UPC.
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So I got a gallon of Gardz and painted a first coat. It looks pretty good so far and I'm going to look over the walls to see if I missed any spots and put some more Gardz on there. But do you think a second full coat of the primer is necessary as well?

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