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Old 05-17-2011, 04:39 AM   #16
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Wow!
I have an "anti-Faron"?!?!

I too got mixed-up on the ORIGINAL question from Littlebonnie!!!

I was replying to items Cruisediva asked in post 3, as if THAT was the OP, when CD brough up priming b4 staining.

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* I realize Cabot's Problem-solving primer isn't used very often for DECKS.
It IS one of the VERY few primers available for decking-use under solid-colors though, as CruiseDiva said she was gonna use.
* It's just not necessary most of the time, assuming good prep done.
* I also realize all the series of stains Cabot has. We used to sell them. When we became a bigger Sikkens dealer, we were able to drop Cabot. Sikkens was getting way more popular here. We'll let Lowe's have Cabot...they'll never have Sikkens!

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* Since you mentioned this is an interim job, consider doing nothing this year! In a sense, you'd be wasting a lot of time & $$.
* I've sanded my 15y/o Construction-Heart Redwood deck-floor twice. Still looks very good. I'm using Sikkens SRD Redwood #089.
* In 2008, the year b4 DD's HS-graduation, I DID sand ALL my spindles, handrails, had the steps (18 2x6's!!!) planed, 2x10 Redwood skirt-boards, 2x12 Redwood stringers, and 6 4x4 Redwood posts.
* I bought a Porter-Cable square Palm-sander, and went through a lot of 60-grit paper!!!!
* I can post pics if you'd like!
* I never had any solid stain on though...always a S/T.
* You CAN sand through old stain. It just takes a while. You WON'T however, be able to do anything about in-between boards....unless you spend a couple days on your knees with a router and sanding-drums!
* I'd just buy new lumber!!
* Consider clear glass/plexi-panels to replace some spindles!! Saw some damn cool ones at our home show this Feb.! They can etch anything into them. College logos, team stuff, family things, etc.

>>> I KNOWETH WELL of what I speaketh here!!

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Faron, I think you misunderstood my comment. I, as is done routinely on this board, disagreed/offered a different resolution to the OP's problem. I don't think you followed the thread closely, OP thanked you for your optimism. I didn't share the same, therefore I'm your opposite, the anti. I have no doubt that you stripped a deck with paper, as I've stripped many things with paper. It's a lot of work. OP has a two-tier deck, and I don't see stripping that with paper to a semi-trans qaulity state. It's not cost effective or practical for a homeowner to do. You and I, as pros, can discuss Cabot's PS primer, but as you agree, it's not an everyday deck application. OP had primer stuck in her mind throughout the thread and I thought it best to take any thoughts of "priming" the deck out of the equation, before a problem gets compounded. That's all. I agree also with doing nothing. I suggested she clean it up lightly, make it look good and enjoy it for the summer until it's officially stripped. There was no challenge on my part.

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Old 05-17-2011, 07:53 PM   #17
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Wow!
>>>>>snip>>>>CruiseDivaNJ-
* Since you mentioned this is an interim job, consider doing nothing this year! In a sense, you'd be wasting a lot of time & $$.
* I've sanded my 15y/o Construction-Heart Redwood deck-floor twice. Still looks very good. I'm using Sikkens SRD Redwood #089.
* In 2008, the year b4 DD's HS-graduation, I DID sand ALL my spindles, handrails, had the steps (18 2x6's!!!) planed, 2x10 Redwood skirt-boards, 2x12 Redwood stringers, and 6 4x4 Redwood posts.
* I bought a Porter-Cable square Palm-sander, and went through a lot of 60-grit paper!!!!
* I can post pics if you'd like!
* I never had any solid stain on though...always a S/T.
* You CAN sand through old stain. It just takes a while. You WON'T however, be able to do anything about in-between boards....unless you spend a couple days on your knees with a router and sanding-drums!
* I'd just buy new lumber!!
* Consider clear glass/plexi-panels to replace some spindles!! Saw some damn cool ones at our home show this Feb.! They can etch anything into them. College logos, team stuff, family things, etc.

>>> I KNOWETH WELL of what I speaketh here!!

Faron
Thanks. We're probably just going to sand the floor & other horizontals that were exposed to sun and have wear and redo it with solid stain, for this year. I unexpectedly became on a budget this year!! Next year I hopefully shoudlnt have this issue!

In the meantime, my saga continues...because Mother nature is making it rain!!

Oh.....and after we sand...NOT going to prime.

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Rent a vibrating-plate sander, & use 60-grit sheets with backer-pads.
"New wood" after you're done!!

Some companies have dropped Solid-Oil decking stains.
Sikkens has a "Hybrid" though....
No...no primer exists for solid color stains, other than one from Cabot for deeper solid colors.

Faron
Down to 36 girt....with effort, its working like a dream! DH started with 60 grit, but when he went back and rented a hand sander he got 60 grit for it and it worked better..so back I went for him and picked up the 60 grit for the other sander.

I think we decided....to just sand the floor and use a semi or transparent and then do the uprights and other areas in a solid...NEVER AGAIN, lol
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Old 05-28-2011, 08:14 AM   #19
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Hoping maybe someone will see/read this....this morning..

DH sanded with 36 grit, does he now have to go over (700+ square feet) with a finer grit before we stain??

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PS it looks great. should we do some kind of "feel" test for smoothness? LOL
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Yeah, when it comes to semi-transparent stains, it is important to do a proper preparation. I am in no way a professional but I was able to see real pros do my wood deck. In reality, it is nothing complicated. You first need to get rid of dirt and mildew. Those guys used a pressure wash to get rid off those things. Some of the stain, the old one that no longer has a good bonding, it falls off pretty easily. They still had to use a thing called a deck stain cleaner, a chemical of some sort. After it, the deck looked as clean as when I had it built :-) Those guys then applied a few coats of stain. I also had it covered with semi-transparent and I like the wood pattern. Remember, it is important to do good preparation, otherwise you are wasting your time. Good luck.
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Yeah, when it comes to semi-transparent stains, it is important to do a proper preparation. I am in no way a professional but I was able to see real pros do my wood deck. In reality, it is nothing complicated. You first need to get rid of dirt and mildew. Those guys used a pressure wash to get rid off those things. Some of the stain, the old one that no longer has a good bonding, it falls off pretty easily. They still had to use a thing called a deck stain cleaner, a chemical of some sort. After it, the deck looked as clean as when I had it built :-) Those guys then applied a few coats of stain. I also had it covered with semi-transparent and I like the wood pattern. Remember, it is important to do good preparation, otherwise you are wasting your time. Good luck.
BTW, the whole thing cost me as little as $220, so it was more than reasonable.

Edit by DM: "as little as???" You mean you don't KNOW what it cost you? BTW, your link was removed as spam.
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And lastly, a friend of mine did not have to use any deck stain removal. He just used a sander and I tell you, it looked pretty!!! So, who knows, might be the way to go!
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