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Old 03-19-2009, 05:09 PM   #1
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We painted the interior of our home with Valspar paint a couple of years ago and have always been unhappy with how it looks - partly due to our own sloppiness and haste, partly due to the roller marks that are visible everywhere.
We're repainting (finally) and want to get the good stuff. Went to Sherwin Williams where they recommended Duration or Super Paint. A friend also recommended checking Kwal.
Should I bother with Kwal? If SW is better, should I go with Duration or Super Paint? Also, what sheen can I go with to avoid roller marks without going completely flat?
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Old 03-19-2009, 09:32 PM   #2
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SW duration is fine. Or you could use BM regal or aura. I like to use a satin on the walls and semi-gloss enamal on baseboards and crown moulding.

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Old 03-20-2009, 04:41 AM   #3
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- partly due to our own sloppiness and haste, partly due to the roller marks that are visible everywhere.

Hate to point this out but roller marks will not go away with better quality paint.You still need to learn how to properly apply the paint.
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Thanks, wpgtkd. That's what I was looking for.

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...should I go with Duration or Super Paint?
Also, what sheen can I go with to avoid roller marks without going completely flat?
Though I love Duration, and I'm not much of a SuperPaint fan, many of my contemporaries that are SW users are fine with SP (I'm more of a Benjamin Moore kinda guy)
I'm sure either would be fine, but I would use Duration myself

The biggest reasons for roller marks are poor quality paint, poor quality roller sleeves, and poor technique
With one of these, chances of a good finish drop, 2 of these and you're pretty much doomed

A lesser sheen might help avoid them (for a particular instance), but it's not one of the main reasons for roller marks

If you are using Duration (or even SuperPaint), and a good quality roller sleeve (at least a Purdy White Dove), and are still getting roller marks, you'll need to work on your technique

The biggest DIY technique issue is trying to squeeze the paint out of the roller (like a sponge...trying to get the last drop out), rather than just applying it...just laying it on w/o any squooshing, squeezing, and all that

With the Valspar paint (questionable quality at best), and your hurried technique, you were pretty much doomed for your last project
Add a cheap sleeve and your fate was sealed

I'm sure this won't be the case this time as you are doing your homework...you should be just fine
I'd recommend an eggshell for a not flat, but easier to handle wall paint
Still higher hiding of wall defects than satin, but not a flat
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Thanks, slickshift. We will get the Purdy roller sleeve you recommended and go with the Duration (on sale now, only a $2/gal. diff. from SP, so it's a no-brainer). I think you were also right-on with our technique issue, I think we were hurrying and "squeezing" too much out as some areas appear heavier than others. I appreciate your feedback and have high hopes for a better result this time!
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I just wanted to pop in and give special thanks to wpgtkd and slickshift - got the painting project rolling today with the SW Duration and my snazzy new Purdy roller sleeve and had WONDERFUL results. Consistant, smooth, free of those rotten roller marks in ANY light. I'm so happy and can't wait to see how the rest of the project comes together. I really appreciate your help!

Now can someone please tell me how to get this paint off my hands? I'm out of goop!
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I am impressed. Looks very nice. I hope you have the paint off your hands by now.
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I am impressed. Looks very nice. I hope you have the paint off your hands by now.
Thanks - and yes, the paint has finally come off my hands.

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