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Mstrlucky74 01-26-2013 06:14 PM

Spackled "Popcorn" Clg.
 
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First I want to thank everyone for advising me on my "bad spackle" post. I will be tackling that DIY tomorrow.

When we bought the house about 7 years ago a friend of ours( has since moved) who helped with some carpentry did a popcorn ceiling spackle :(. He said it could be done and we were like whatever, we trust you....ok. It came out fine. A few questions about the ceiling(see pics).

1. We installed a skylight some time ago and some re-spackle had to be done. Well as you can see it did not match the original. If we repaint the entire ceiling I would imagine it would match then, correct?

2. The seems to be settlement issues as you can tell by the pics. By the crown molding were the caulking is it is separating in some places. Also there is a line straight down part of the ceiling. There is a low spot by the skylight. I would imagine these are settlement issues. Any advice on what I should do/check?

Went back to edit due to the fat I forgot to dd the pic the shows the small low spot by the skylight. The pic of the skylight here shows the mismatch due to the re-spackle.... You can't see the low spot to the back left of the skylight.

Would these questions be better on the carpentry forum? Thanks

joecaption 01-26-2013 07:18 PM

The crown just looks like he used cheap painters caulk.
Remove the loose caulking with a razor knife.
Redo it with Alex 230. Less is best no need to blob it on. Apply, wipe with your finger then wipe down with a damp sponge for a smooth finish.
The area around the sky light is scary, no way to be positive from here but it sure looks like it was framed wrong so it's causing the sagging.
What's that dark area around the hole, almost looks like water damage to me.

Mstrlucky74 01-26-2013 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1102741)
The crown just looks like he used cheap painters caulk.
Remove the loose caulking with a razor knife.
Redo it with Alex 230. Less is best no need to blob it on. Apply, wipe with your finger then wipe down with a damp sponge for a smooth finish.
The area around the sky light is scary, no way to be positive from here but it sure looks like it was framed wrong so it's causing the sagging.
What's that dark area around the hole, almost looks like water damage to me.

Thanks Joe. The pic of the skylight is deceiving. It's not sagging there at all although it looks like it. It almost looks like there is a water line there but there is not. The is the area that was re-spackled.

joecaption 01-26-2013 07:34 PM

I'm sure it was not spackle, it's more likly drywall compound.
Spackle is for just patchings small nail holes.
One of the many many horrible things about any textured surface it's almost imposable to just repair without having to redo the whole area to get a perfect match. Even pro have trouble with it.

Mstrlucky74 01-26-2013 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1102747)
I'm sure it was not spackle, it's more likly drywall compound.
Spackle is for just patchings small nail holes.
One of the many many horrible things about any textured surface it's almost imposable to just repair without having to redo the whole area to get a perfect match. Even pro have trouble with it.

Yeah your right, it's probably compound. My wife actually wants the textured look removed. I kind of like it.

joecaption 01-26-2013 08:51 PM

Imposible to clean, pain to paint, very hard to get a matching repair.

Mstrlucky74 01-26-2013 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1102785)
Imposible to clean, pain to paint, very hard to get a matching repair.

Not sure what you mean.....

joecaption 01-26-2013 11:52 PM

Just some of the draw back with textured anything.

chrisn 01-27-2013 04:39 AM

If we repaint the entire ceiling I would imagine it would match then, correct?

You will never get that texture with paint.:no:

I cannot help with how to either get rid of it or mimick it, other than adding 1/4 drywall up there and statrting over.:eek:

jsheridan 01-27-2013 04:46 AM

Texture is a lot like a fingerprint, each surface has it's own unique look and pattern, which makes it extremely difficult to recreate for touch up purposes. There were a lot of variables in play when that ceiling was first done. The likelihood that you'll do that patching and match it is close to zero. You'll end up with a different eyesore. And paint is not going to hide any of your concerns. The dark rectangle along the skylight is probably a shadow created by a low spot, which paint won't hide.
Honestly, I agree with your wife. My professional opinion is the ceiling is toast.

Mstrlucky74 01-27-2013 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1102886)
Just some of the draw back with textured anything.

Oh.. That's a bummer. How could we remove it to do a standard finish? Scrape it all off? Would Sheetrock have to come down? Don't know how we would be able to be it smoot by scraping.

Mstrlucky74 01-27-2013 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jsheridan (Post 1102928)
Texture is a lot like a fingerprint, each surface has it's own unique look and pattern, which makes it extremely difficult to recreate for touch up purposes. There were a lot of variables in play when that ceiling was first done. The likelihood that you'll do that patching and match it is close to zero. You'll end up with a different eyesore. And paint is not going to hide any of your concerns. The dark rectangle along the skylight is probably a shadow created by a low spot, which paint won't hide.
Honestly, I agree with your wife. My professional opinion is the ceiling is toast.

Wow..so I'm just thinking to myself.....In order to put new rock up(which I guess is the only choice if we don't want the texture look) would the crown molding have to be removed? Is that even possible without damaging it? Thanks ...:censored:

Brushjockey 01-27-2013 08:49 AM

With some skill it can be scraped the best you can, do the repairs and skimmed ( probably 3 coats), sanded , primed and finished.

I am going to do that to this ceiling soon, and it's worse than yours.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ps9582a8ab.jpg

jsheridan 01-27-2013 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Brushjockey (Post 1102989)
With some skill it can be scraped the best you can, do the repairs and skimmed ( probably 3 coats), sanded , primed and finished.

I am going to do that to this ceiling soon, and it's worse than yours.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ps9582a8ab.jpg

Looks like a Herculean task, you're a giant among men.:laughing:

MstrLucky, hiring a plasterer to float that ceiling out would be my recommendation, unless you're real handy.

ToolSeeker 01-27-2013 03:43 PM

SAND,SAND, SAND, use 80 grit sanding screen, skim coat with the ultra light mud, light sand 220 sanding screen, prime, paint.


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