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Old 03-03-2008, 07:07 PM   #1
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Our new house has an "enclosed patio" which is essentially a series of large plates of glass supported by a kinda rough wood framing and waist-high "wall" boards. The stucco walls (of the old exterior) are also still left untouched except for a layer of white exterior paint, some shelves added to/along one house wall, and some penetrations for speaker cables and electrical power (thru the crawl space or the attic).

All the wood was either stained or treated back in 1973 or so, and in need of freshening up/preserving so it doesn't deteriorate. We are planning/hoping to do so by painting the wood, and so have some "how to" questions. For example,

#1. Prep'g the wood - Do we need to sand the wood as prep for painting?
- If so, what grit (given its current "roughness')?
- And, what else do we need to do (besides washing the wood and maybe TSP'g the wood)?
- Is there a particular cleaner that works best?
- Finally, what primer (brand or kind) should we use?

#2. Paint - What kind of paint do we use? We're assuming exterior latex eventhough it's "enclosed" for both the wood and the stucco walls.
- Or is painting the wood not an option? If not, what are our options?

#3. Doing more to the stucco - Is there anything (fairly KISS) we can do with the old stucco walls? Or should we be content, for now, simply repainting them?

Thanks again as always...

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Old 03-03-2008, 08:08 PM   #2
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#1. Prep'g the wood - Do we need to sand the wood as prep for painting?
Yes, if it is stained now you'll need a scuff sanding and a primer
- If so, what grit (given its current "roughness')?
I'm not really sure how rough it is...if it is "Rough Hewn" or Rough Sawn", almost hairy with splinters, then you can skip the sanding, but the prime will be tougher...you may need to switch from an oil-based to a shellac-based
- And, what else do we need to do (besides washing the wood and maybe TSP'g the wood)?
Not really
- Is there a particular cleaner that works best?
Not really
- Finally, what primer (brand or kind) should we use?
Oil-based (alkyd), Zinsser (Cover Stain), Ben Moore, (Fresh Start), and Sherwin Williams (A-100), are all good

#2. Paint - What kind of paint do we use? We're assuming exterior latex eventhough it's "enclosed" for both the wood and the stucco walls.
- Or is painting the wood not an option? If not, what are our options?

If it's that enclosed, you may want to consider interior products. The exterior products do have mildecides and other things that "off-gas" over time (even after it cures)
They are really meant to be aired out for quite a bit...for as long as the product lasts
Not an ideal situation in an enclosed room

#3. Doing more to the stucco - Is there anything (fairly KISS) we can do with the old stucco walls? Or should we be content, for now, simply repainting them?
Not sure what you mean...like a faux finish? Not really simple...easiest is re-paint
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#2. Paint - What kind of paint do we use? We're assuming exterior latex eventhough it's "enclosed" for both the wood and the stucco walls.
- Or is painting the wood not an option? If not, what are our options?
If it's that enclosed, you may want to consider interior products. The exterior products do have mildecides and other things that "off-gas" over time (even after it cures). They are really meant to be aired out for quite a bit...for as long as the product lasts. Not an ideal situation in an enclosed room
So Latex interior paint will not have a problem adhering to the wood. ...AND the stucco too? eh?
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Not if properly prepped and primed
-It's adhering to the primer, not the wood
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I'd like an expert verification... I've been told by a friend that if the wood below/framing the windows is cedar or redwood, I'll need to use exterior paint on both the interior and exterior sides.

Which brings up a question, if the wood shows signs of mildew or similar such "paint problems," do I use exterior or interior problem solving techniques?
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Interior for inside

I'm not sure why your friend has that opinion
It's not accurate...you don't "need" exterior products for cedar
...or mold/mildew issues

It would "work" (stick)
It's just not a good idea for health reasons
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