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Old 08-11-2014, 04:23 PM   #31
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I am not a painter, but I believe a significant part of the problem is flat Superpaint with a slight sheen combined with a very smooth ceiling and large windows illuminating the ceiling. I see some here have had the same problem. Our painter wants to try and spray and back roll again with an 18 roller this time and possibly with another paint. I am thinking of trying Sherwin Williams Eminence flat ceiling paint tinted to Greek Villa to match our walls instead of the flat Superpaint that use used previously.

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Maybe we should add Latex X-tender or Floetrol to keep the paint from drying too fast.

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Emminence, I don't like Emminence on ceilings. It's worse than SuperPaint on flat ceilings.
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The contractor should be back rolling to begin with if he's spraying.
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Emminence, I don't like Emminence on ceilings. It's worse than SuperPaint on flat ceilings.
Agreed, Emminence is the worst.
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I actually like Eminence, but I doubt it will be the cure for this situation. It also has just a tad of sheen, especially if its tinted, and can flash if not applied just right.

Seems to me like a situation where you need cheap, dead flat paint. Master Hide as mentioned previously would fit the bill IMO.
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The contractor should be back rolling to begin with if he's spraying.
Should or should not?
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Should, and I like the Eminence too. Anytime you spray you should bankroll, I guess I should say almost anytime you spray. The reason for this is, say on this ceiling if in the future you need to do a small repair, no matter how much you make the repair perfect, it will show really bad unless you spray it. By bankrolling you add a stipple to the paint. This way a repair can be made, then using a roller it will blend in with the rest of the ceiling
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It's just that he said "to begin with", and that's usually what you say when you mean you shouldn't be doing something. Looked like a typo.
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It's just that he said "to begin with", and that's usually what you say when you mean you shouldn't be doing something. Looked like a typo.
I said to begin with, because the contractor should have been back rolling from the beginning of the project when he/she was spraying the ceiling.
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Thanks everyone for the feedback. The general consensus is to not use Sherwin Williams Eminence. Looks like we will try spraying flat Superpaint again and back roll with an 18" 1/4" nap roller sleeve. I will post the results after the ceiling is painted.


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I still think 1/4" roller is part of the problem. This is a fairly large ceiling and 1/4" is a very short nap roller. When the sprayer guy goes across the ceiling what tip he uses will determine how much paint he is putting on. Then the one following comes along with this short nap roller, before he gets half way across it's full of paint. Now it can't do it's job, this can cause stripping.

Move up to a 1/2" roller cover and scrap the excess paint out of it with a 5n1 tool after a couple of trips across the room. If this is a re-paint with stipple already on the ceiling it may not need to be back rolled.

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I still think 1/4" roller is part of the problem. This is a fairly large ceiling and 1/4" is a very short nap roller. When the sprayer guy goes across the ceiling what tip he uses will determine how much paint he is putting on. Then the one following comes along with this short nap roller, before he gets half way across it's full of paint. Now it can't do it's job, this can cause stripping.

Move up to a 1/2" roller cover and scrap the excess paint out of it with a 5n1 tool after a couple of trips across the room. If this is a re-paint with stipple already on the ceiling it may not need to be back rolled.

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Thanks, I will talk with the painter about your suggestions.

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Does anyone have an opinion on Kelly Moore 550 flat paint for the ceiling? I would have it tinted to match the wall color. My painter is suggesting this.
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1/2 nap + masterhide = problem solved.

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