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simiesue 11-12-2013 12:52 PM

Sherwin Williams Emerald or Pro Mar 200 ) VOC... lots of questions
 
I have a painter coming over tomorrow to start a major interior painting job. 2 story foyer, kitchen, living room dining room, upstairs hall. He wants to use SW ProMar 200 0 Voc (we want 0 voc paint since it is cold here not much ventilation) in a flat and low sheen. After going to a SW store and talking to a salesman.. he said Emerald is much better paint. Now I really need washabilty for the halls and kitchen.. so is Emerald matte or satin good for that or should I stick with Pro mar 0 VOC??Also, the Emerald paint can did say 0 VOC BUT it also had that disclaimer of CA residents beware of carcinogens.... So is it really safe to use inside?
Matte finish - it seems it has some flash to it... so would drywall imperfections show up in my 2 story foyer? Thanks for helping this frazzled homeowner!

Jmayspaint 11-12-2013 01:17 PM

If wash ability is the goal, you will need at least a matte finish. Pro mar comes in either flat, or low sheen but not in matte.

Higher sheens will show surface defects and application errors more than lower sheens.
Matte is the lowest sheen that is still considered washable. (Low sheen is a little higher sheen than matte)

Pro mar is good solid paint. The low sheen can look good on walls if its applied properly, but yes it can flash and show roller marks.
Emerald matte can flash also, it all depends on having a good surface to paint over and the application techniques.

Emerald matte is probably my favorite interior wall paint. If it was me, and I wanted wash ability and the best possible look, I would go with the Emerald... Provided material cost was not a big issue.

joecaption 11-12-2013 02:08 PM

Those CA warns are a joke.
I've bought anything from a leather wallet, a package of fishing hooks, even the air filled bags that were used in shipping packaging had those warning on them.

simiesue 11-12-2013 02:19 PM

Would PRo Mar 200 0 VOC low sheen give me good washability - in halls/kitchen??? What paint would??

chrisn 11-12-2013 02:25 PM

as posted already

. If it was me, and I wanted wash ability and the best possible look, I would go with the Emerald... Provided material cost was not a big issue.

747 11-12-2013 02:38 PM

Emerald is big money. I would just go with the promar. Now if you wanted to upgrade a little. Superpaint in flat.

simiesue 11-12-2013 02:40 PM

Does Emerald give off a lasting 'paint' smell? I know when I paint baseboards with Behr 0 VOV low odor... I hardly smell anything. For material costs.. SW just wrapped up their 40% off sale ( but the salesman said they honor the discount for 5 days :)) so I could get Emerald matte for $37 (not 62)/gal. Not sure how much contractors get for a discount...is it more than 40%?
Would Emerald matte or satin be best for kitchens/halls?

747 11-12-2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by simiesue (Post 1265774)
Does Emerald give off a lasting 'paint' smell? I know when I paint baseboards with Behr 0 VOV low odor... I hardly smell anything. For material costs.. SW just wrapped up their 40% off sale ( but the salesman said they honor the discount for 5 days :)) so I could get Emerald matte for $37 (not 62)/gal. Not sure how much contractors get for a discount...is it more than 40%?
Would Emerald matte or satin be best for kitchens/halls?


Well now. Its hard not to go with emerald at 37:thumbsup: I don't know about the smell. I have only used superpaint or cashmere.

Jmayspaint 11-12-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 747

Well now. Its hard not to go with emerald at 37:thumbsup:


Yea, that's a good deal.

ToolSeeker 11-12-2013 04:57 PM

No matter what they claim a flat or the lowest sheens are not washable. Not only that they will show things like fingerprints more. I personally don't like flat on walls Matte or satin is my preferred.

simiesue 11-12-2013 05:46 PM

Would Emerald Matte show drywall flaws in a 2 story foyer??? If you were me.. would you paint your house Emerald matte/Emerald Satin... knowing that you wanted wash ability in the kitchen and halls???

747 11-12-2013 06:09 PM

It seems to me Your very concerned with washablility. Therefore i'm going to say Harmony in eggshell.:yes: With this being said. Wait to see what the other guys think.

ToolSeeker 11-12-2013 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by simiesue (Post 1265839)
Would Emerald Matte show drywall flaws in a 2 story foyer??? If you were me.. would you paint your house Emerald matte/Emerald Satin... knowing that you wanted wash ability in the kitchen and halls???

Well I think the first thing we need to know is more about the flaws if they are minor then no if they are bigger then probably yes. But if they are big enough then no paint will hide them, they will need to be repaired.
Another suggestion would be use a kitchen and bath paint for the kitchen they are more washable. And then use a matte or satin for the hallway, which should not get the abuse of cooking oils, grease splatters, steam, and so forth that a kitchen gets. In fact we used to paint kitchens in semi gloss because they were smaller and usually not much wall space and semi was very washable.

simiesue 11-12-2013 06:43 PM

While at the SW store.. the lady said that Emerald satin/eggshell are the same.... does Emerald Satin look shiny? That is what my contractor is saying but at the store the sample looked okay to me.

kwikfishron 11-12-2013 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by simiesue (Post 1265730)
I have a painter coming over tomorrow to start a major interior painting job.

Maybe you should call your painter now to let him know you're still undecided so he doesn't show up in the morning with the wrong mixed unreturnable paint. :)


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