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Old 07-30-2013, 09:08 PM   #31
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It seems like the PVA sealed the joint compound (hot mud) the best of the 4 I tried (all 3 Valspars at Lowes and the Zinsser). All of them covered in the ok range. None of the Valspar Latex primers (other than the PVA) sealed worth a darn in my experience. They joint compound just kept on drinking it up. I read a trick that if you add Elmers Glue to the joint compound when wet it'll be easier to seal. May try that next time. But for now it seems that the PVA was the way to go.

With any shine (semi gloss etc) sealing is much more important than I would have ever given it credit for in painting drywall. Live and learn.

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Old 07-30-2013, 09:46 PM   #32
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That's all it is, should have applied primer before painting spackled areas.
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Old 07-30-2013, 10:40 PM   #33
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That's all it is, should have applied primer before painting spackled areas.
Yes, we did. We used the primer listed in the 1st post.

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Old 07-31-2013, 03:17 AM   #34
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If the 123 did not seal it, then you are not applying it correctly, (imo)
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If the 123 did not seal it, then you are not applying it correctly, (imo)
I didn't say it didn't seal it. But I said the primer in the first post and the other Latex Valspar primers didn't seal.
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A lot of us add glue to compound but it's for strength. Really don't know of the effect on priming.
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Wait..Tool..what?

What glue do you add to mud? I have never even heard of that>?

Interesting idea- just not sure how that would be any better than just using a hot mud, which is pretty darn strong.
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If all you have is bucket mud on the site to save time from going to get hot mud you would use the bucket mud with a little glue in it. Now keep a bottle of mud max in the truck serves the same purpose. If you have an odd angle and are worried it may have crack problems mix some glue in your hot mud or mix your hot mud with mud max. If you just want your corners to be a little stronger mix some glue or mud max with the mud. Even for bucket mud this adds a lot of strength just don't use it on final coat as it does make sanding harder. If you don't have the mud max just regular white glue will do.
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OK- googled Mud Max- never ran into this stuff. See! learn something new!

http://www.all-wall.com/Categories/D...-Max-Pint.html
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OK- googled Mud Max- never ran into this stuff. See! learn something new!

http://www.all-wall.com/Categories/D...-Max-Pint.html
Yea, that's cool. I've heard drywall guys talk about using hardener on crack prone areas.
I wondered what it was.
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777funk, here are my 2 cents, most of which has already been posted here. I have done painting on and off since I was a teenager (58 now) and have tried to learn along the way. I did a kitchen years ago that had a semi-gloss on it already, the tenant wanted it repainted with semi-gloss. I patched and painted and the patches REALLY stood out because I did not prime! I am at the point where I ALWAYS double prime patching so that I don't get flashing. I have used a lot of Kilz 2 lately because I am doing mostly paint-to-make-look-good-and-sell properties, the customers want as low a price as I can give, and Kilz 2 is generally on sale at Home Depot for under 25 for 2 gallons. For customers that want to live in their homes after the painting is done I might go with Aqua-Lock primer/sealer.

Whatever primer you use on patched spots, make sure it will seal the spackling compound so that the paint lays on top and does not absorb into the spackling. And remember to double prime your spackling. Better safe than sorry IMO.

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