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Old 12-20-2009, 09:40 AM   #1
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I am new to painting an not a professional painter. We are finishing our basement and just had all the walls taped and primed. I tried using Behr paint in the bedroom (was a mistake) and put on 2 coats but when we brought stuff into the room we made scuff marks on one of the walls and I tried to touch it up and it didn't blend so I put on another coat on the one wall and made a mistake so I needed to put one more coat on. The last coat I put on I only let the coat dry about an hour and it was dry to the touch but it must not have been totally dry because it created a very rough surface (almost like orange peel) and the rest of my walls are very smooth. Because of this the paint doesn't blend and the light reflects different and looks very bad. I need to know how I can get this one wall smooth again. Will sanding work or should I just have my taper come over and skim coat the one wall since it is only about 10ft. I am not sure if sandingwill get it smooth. Will skim coating get it smooth again so it is the same as the others? I have carpet going in Tuesday so woud like to get the skim coat or sanding done so the mess is done before the carpet comes. I appeciated the suggestions.

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Old 12-20-2009, 09:55 AM   #2
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Try using a scraper to remove the rough spots. It's work but you can be successful. skim coating may be needed if this does not work. Then prime and top coat with Zinsser's Perma White. This is the best paint to use in moist rooms like a kitchen or bath. You can tint it to any color you want.

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Old 12-20-2009, 10:05 AM   #3
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First, if I understand you, you put all these coats on in one day? Yesterday or so?

And sorry to break the news, but you hear it on this site often, you used about the worst paint you could think of. It has poor adhesion to start and it sounds like you raced it drying and heaped on three coats.

You cannot scrape or sand paint easily when it is dry and certainly not three coats with one or more still wet. You cannot skim coat it either if it is wet and not at all cured.

Is the room at least warm? Do you have dehumidifier you can stick in there to help suck some of the moisture out of the room? Is this wall you're are having trouble with an exterior wall?

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Old 12-20-2009, 10:15 AM   #4
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It is a interior wall and is about 70 degress in the house. All the coats are now dry but i have the rough orange peel like texture. I need to know my best option to make the wall as smooth as the other 3 in the room. I hink skim coat be my wasy to go but how much will a taper charge me to do this if it is a 10ft wall but there are 2 doors on the wall so it will only be about 50 sq ft that has to be skim coated. We used Hirshfields platnum cermaic in our main area and now I will used that in the bedroom. We just had some left over hbehr and though we would use that here and paid for it. The Hirshfields is awsome and is about $40 a gallon. I just need to get the wall smooth so I can do the whole room over.
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It is a interior wall and is about 70 degress in the house. All the coats are now dry but i have the rough orange peel like texture. I need to know my best option to make the wall as smooth as the other 3 in the room. I hink skim coat be my wasy to go but how much will a taper charge me to do this if it is a 10ft wall but there are 2 doors on the wall so it will only be about 50 sq ft that has to be skim coated. We used Hirshfields platnum cermaic in our main area and now I will used that in the bedroom. We just had some left over hbehr and though we would use that here and paid for it. The Hirshfields is awsome and is about $40 a gallon. I just need to get the wall smooth so I can do the whole room over.
I don't know where you are and this site does not like price quotations anyhow for obvious reasons. Skim coating 10' of wall is not a major project and it sounds like you had confidence in your person.

If you absolutely must have this done by the time carpet comes on Tuesday though have him use dry mud with a quick curing time. It is Sunday where I am and the mud will need to dry, the primer over it next, and two coats of paint.

At some point you need to let paint and all dry, and more importantly cure, in this project.

As an alternative to skim coating you might try laying down a nice coat of a superbonding primer (Zinsser would not be my choice but I don't know what you have available and where you are) with a thicker roller cover like 3/4" nap. Then go over that with a roller cover of at least 1/2" with two coats of finish. It is not going to flatten things to match the other walls but you might end up with an eggshell finish you like better than an orange peel.

You might end up with six to seven layers of a mess too though.

I say again, you are ending up with lots of coats and you are racing this project! Got to let them dry. Is this a get this done by Christmas project?

I and others can teach you how to paint even with carpeting in the room if that helps.

Tinting a nice primer is a good idea rather than leaving it white. I only go to 50-60 percent of the paint formula though because I want to make sure I can see the difference between primer and finish coats and because paint and primer are different things. I don't want more pigment than I need in primer. Primer doesn't come in tint bases either.

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I could paint after the carpet gets in but though it would be nice to get the at least the skim coat done before so the sanding doesn't get all over. There is probably 5 coats on the wall right now from me trying to fix it. Should I just skim coat it and get it over with and will it look the same as the other walls once this is done?
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I really think you need to let this dry out and cure a bit but that is my opinion. You have five layers of stuff caked on and to add a layers of skim coat, which I forgot to mention, should go over a primer since it will not stick to paint, is going to bring you up to 7. Before you try to prime the skim coat and put two coats of paint on it?

Ten layers of paint, primer and a knew skim coat in the course of 2-3 days is a recipe for disaster?

Yes, it would be nice to skim coat and sand it before the carpet layers come but life is not always perfect. Plastic, duct tape and even masking tape to cram down between the wall and carpeting were made for such imperfect situations.

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how long should I wait until i skim coat? A week? After doing this will it look the same as the other walls.

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