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justinramani 04-16-2013 06:10 PM

Which Roller Cover?
 
I am about to do a repaint on a house we are purchasing in NC. After reading about roller covers I am leaning towards a 14 inch frame, but cant get a clear answer on a good cover. I will be using flat Duron paint on walls with no texture. What are your votes:

Wool
Purdy Colossus
Purdy White Dove
Wooster Pro dooz

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Brushjockey 04-16-2013 06:39 PM

14" are hard to find- 18's all over the place. But 14"s are my fav oversized covers, and I can only find them in Wooster Super Fab 1/2", and that is on line.

user1007 04-16-2013 07:05 PM

Have you used an oversized roller before? If not, I think you will find not that much difference in a 14 incher. A jump to 18 maybe. Hope you have strong wrists.

You need a wider pan. An oversized roller will not work with a bucket roller frame. I would stick with the standard size.

For flat either the Purdy or Wooster will be fine. No need for a wool cover. 1/2" minimum but 3/8" better IMO.

Some disagree but I buy the contractor grade covers and toss them rather than waste precious fresh water rinsing them out. Wrap them in saran wrap until done with the job. Stick them in a cool place.

jeffnc 04-16-2013 07:16 PM

Purdy White Dove are my favorite. Those, and Wooster ProDoo-z and Super Fab are all available from ThePaintStore.com in 14" sizes.

14" is a great size because you cover 50% more wall in the same amount of time, but you don't kill your arms with an 18" roller.

There is no need to use wool.

I always throw the roller covers out rather than spend all that time cleaning and dumping paint into our rivers. I always clean brushes because brushes cost more, are faster to clean, and dump much less paint.

jsheridan 04-16-2013 09:17 PM

Any Wooster product is a good choice. Minimum nap for today's flats is 1/2". 3/8 covers just don't hold enough paint anymore at the lower sheen levels. Higher solids content? I would use a 3/8 cover for eggshells on small wall projects, but I have a two story foyer with eggshell coming up and I'll use a 1/2. The nice thing about wool is the coverage it gives. Wool holds more paint. Either full or 50/50 it covers more square area than synthetics per load, and it holds up longer. I'll use wool on larger ceilings/walls not large enough for an eighteen incher. It's a little more pricey but it's made up for in less dipping time and farther coverage per roller load.

justinramani 04-17-2013 04:34 PM

Thanks to everyone for the input. I decided to go with an adjustable frame from Wooster and 18" 1/2 white dove covers. I also went for the Big Ben bucket. Do these sound like good choices?

On another note, I called all over town looking for XIM extender for trim work I will be doing. Nobody in Fayetteville NC stocks it. Is this a regional product? All the stores around here had Flotrol. I ended up buying online and paid a premium for shipping. I hope I'm not disappointed!

jeffnc 04-17-2013 05:20 PM

Those sound fine.

By the way, I recently painted flat paint with a 1/2" nap. The project manager did not like the "texture" of the finish, although the customer was happy. I think it's fine, and with flat it's not very noticeable to me, but just mentioning it. I always use 3/8" with eggshell so as not to get too nubby of a texture.

You will move a lot of paint with an 18" 1/2" nap roller - have fun.

I've used Floetrol, but not XIM. I thought Floetrol does an OK job, not fantastic. Here's an interesting opinion about the 2:
http://painterspitstop.com/showthread.php?tid=4078

Brushjockey 04-17-2013 05:35 PM

Just used the XIM ext. today. I call it "brush grease". Since I found it- I have never used flotrol.
Be careful to not overdo it.
I put a little bit more into my brush mix than I do into my roll bucket.
And depending on the paint ( and I use almost exclusively BM) I add an equal amount of water as XIM. And that is not much.

jeffnc 04-17-2013 05:38 PM

<never mind>

Brushjockey 04-17-2013 05:41 PM

Also- BM makes it own extender- which is much better than flotrol- particularly for their paints and the Gennex tint system.
My BM guys will add it to paints as they tint them up if I ask.

Mr. Paint 04-17-2013 05:46 PM

18" covers are ideal for floor coating, but anything over a 9" will lead to an earlier operator fatigue, unless you are a well-conditioned professional. Purdy Whit Dove and Wooster covers are an excellent choice. We have had great success selling Microfiber covers. I don't know if you can find them at a dealer near you or not. They do a good job of delivering paint to the wall.

When you start with a new cover, wet it with clear water first and spin out the excess. You will find that the roller cover will begin working right with the first roll without needing a break-in period.

justinramani 04-17-2013 05:57 PM

Thanks for the tips. I'm reprinting the same color. I guess when the house was built (3 yrs ago) Duron stocked the color that was used. They sell the same line of paint at SW, but now the color must be tinted (using the original tint codes). I hope that the color match is close. It would be nice if I didn't have to cut in corners/ceilings. I'm pretty picky about thinks - am I dreaming to think that the colors will match up closely?

jeffnc 04-17-2013 06:02 PM

I think you're going to be hard pressed to get away without cutting in. The good news is you can be fast with it if the color is the same or very very close (which it could be, depending on how much sunlight or dirt got on the walls.) If you have a 1/8" gap at your ceiling and trim cut ins you probably won't notice it, so you can be a bit "sloppy".

ToolSeeker 04-17-2013 06:11 PM

One advantage the 14" has over the 18" is with the 14 you can get a lot closer in the corners because of the frame. Since you are using 1/2" nap covers I would get some 4" roller covers that are 1/2" nap for getting in the corners or you will have picture framing.

jsheridan 04-17-2013 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by justinramani (Post 1161398)
Thanks for the tips. I'm reprinting the same color. I guess when the house was built (3 yrs ago) Duron stocked the color that was used. They sell the same line of paint at SW, but now the color must be tinted (using the original tint codes). I hope that the color match is close. It would be nice if I didn't have to cut in corners/ceilings. I'm pretty picky about thinks - am I dreaming to think that the colors will match up closely?

Dreamer, nothin but a dreamer - Supertramp
SW can't match exactly from one gallon to the next let alone going from factory mix to store mix over a three year span. I had very similar problems when SW took over MAB.
Then you have the old finish fade factor. Then you have the 18" inch kit factor. With an 18" set up you need at least a four inch cut. I'd say if you're picky, cut in.


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