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Old 06-14-2013, 10:01 AM   #16
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I imagine this was a little easier when walls were plastered.

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Try the scoring thingy...we used it in our bathroom and it worked great. I just ran it over the wallpaper, sprayed it with a water/fabric softener mix, and let it sit for an hour or so. I had to scrape some of it off but most of it came off without additional tools. Removing wallpaper is a pain but it's better than painting over it. Our kitchen has two walls that are painted wallpaper and we didn't even know it until we removed the base boards when we had a pipe burst. We left it as is since we didn't need to repaint but when we redo our kitchen in the future we plan on taking it all down.
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About the only time I will consider painting paper is if its cheap paper hung over bare drywall.
It can bond so thoroughly with the Sheetrock paper, that taking it off inevitably damages the walls.
If I'm trying to make it appear to be a smooth wall instead of 'painted wallpaper, it takes as much labor to prep it as it would to strip 'strip able' paper. So don't not strip to save dry wall work. I treat the paper seams like dry wall joints, - tape. Unless you want painted wallpaper.nbd.
Try to pull the face of the paper off. It it comes off in sheets at all, it would probably be easier to strip it. If it comes off in little pieces or not at all, it might be 'hyper bonded to the Sheetrock paper.
Would like to hear of any tricks to remove paper in this condition. Soaking in chems or water always seems to break the bond in the wrong place and really damage the rock. I don't know if this qualifies as 'having to' paint the paper, sometimes it seems like it to me.

Ran into this recently in a college office building. Painting it this time wasn't an option, it was textured commercial vinyl.
The pic doesn't really do justice to the amount of wall damage. After repeated, lengthy soakings this area took about 16 man hrs to strip. And still have to fix the drywall.

Blows my mind that people will hang on bare rock, especially commercial. I see this a lot around here though, not even surprised by it anymore.
an hour and $25 worth od Gardz would have prevented that whole scenario
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I imagine this was a little easier when walls were plastered.

Any and all wall paper can easily be removed from plaster
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an hour and $25 worth od Gardz would have prevented that whole scenario
I know.... Just don't get why anyone would do that. Gotta be a pita to hang on a surface like that anyway.
Must have been some real hack paper hangers around here in the 90's . Seen it more times than I wanna count.
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I know.... Just don't get why anyone would do that. Gotta be a pita to hang on a surface like that anyway.
Must have been some real hack paper hangers around here in the 90's . Seen it more times than I wanna count.

It drives me crazy. I get to a stripping job and the home owner says" it was put on by a "professional". I think, oh sh$#.. The ho's would usually follow directions and put SOMETHING on the wall first. The "pro's" 9 times out of 10 would hang over the builders flat with some concoction of paste that makes removal a nightmare.
It would have taken them less than a hour to do it right, I don't get it.
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Wallcoverings are manufactured in two layers: the face paper is what you can peel off and remove by hand. This leaves the backing paper or canvas in the case of vinyls. This is the layer that soaks up the remover and is removed by scraping and elbow grease.

Wash the exposed wall to remove all paste residue. It is well worth the effort.
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Neither. When we redo the kitchen both walls will come down. Sorry I didn't specify. I was merely stating that we have two walls in our kitchen that have painted wallpaper and that we didn't even know it until we pulled off the baseboards. We have plaster walls so I'm certain it was better to paint over the wallpaper rather than try to remove it. Gawd it was some UGLY wallpaper.

Totally and completely wrong. Any wall paper can be stripped from plaster walls, primed or not. I have been doing this for a very long time ( thousands of jobs) and have never come across any paper on plaster that could not be removed
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Moot point since the walls will be COMING DOWN, as in, no longer there. But good to know that removing it from plaster walls shouldn't pose a problem in case we find that other walls are painted wallpaper.
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Would like to hear of any tricks to remove paper in this condition. Soaking in chems or water always seems to break the bond in the wrong place and really damage the rock. I don't know if this qualifies as 'having to' paint the paper, sometimes it seems like it to me.
Basically the worst case situation is what you described, with the added bonus that the wallpaper is pealing off in other places. Not adhered everywhere well enough to paint over, adhered too sell in other places so that it can't be take off. Then you basically have to take off what comes off, skim coat, and start fresh.

Otherwise, painting over the wallpaper is less time consuming and less risky than damaging all that drywall.
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Paint a small area, and if no bubbles when it drys then paint the rest of it.
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Paint a small area, and if no bubbles when it drys then paint the rest of it.
That doesn't prove that it won't bubble elsewhere.

Even if you are successful as far as bubbles, it still looks cheap.
You are causing a lot more work in the future to remove the painted wall paper.
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What do we use to loosen wallpaper- water
What is the base for latex paint- water
Yea I don't see any problems.
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That doesn't prove that it won't bubble elsewhere.

Even if you are successful as far as bubbles, it still looks cheap.
You are causing a lot more work in the future to remove the painted wall paper.
I didn't say it was gonna look good.

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