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socrates 09-02-2012 12:14 PM

Questions on molding/window frames
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I am in SoCal and I recently got an old house. Unfortunately it is covered inside and out with oil based paint... Recently I asked a question regarding oil based paint and it was recommended that I use zinsser. I ended up getting the oil based cover stain blocker and it seemed to go on fine outside of its a pain to cut with due to brush strokes etc.
My questions are what's the best route to apply this primer to the door way frames, window frames and shiny kitchen cupboards should I
1. sand them really well or
2.should I apply a paint remover so that I can scrap/wipe it off
3. Clean them well and lightly sand them with a high grit sand paper and Just paint the oil based primer and then paint over it...
4. Do the same as 3 but instead of the cover stain just use a latex paint such as zinsser's bin...
I have attached pictures of the frame and the kitchen cabinets.
Thanks! Another helpful tidbits would be great too....

Brushjockey 09-02-2012 12:53 PM

well, lets see- #3 with some modifications..
Clean ,( soilex, dirtex, Krud Kutter or tsp/ tsp substitute- real labels and follow) sand with not heavy but med- med fine ( 150-220 grit). The idea is to break up the gloss- not remove the paint. Then the primer will have the ability to get a mechanical bond besides the chemical one that it has.
Cover stain could use a _small_ shot of mineral spirits in it to get it to handle better.
BIN is a shellac based primer- and while it will do the job well, is even harder to handle than the cover stain.

socrates 09-02-2012 07:01 PM

Thanks and as for the side of the house is that also a decent exterior primer? I want something that'll last awhile incase I have to leave it in a few months before I paint... I have to replace about 25% of the siding around the house...

joecaption 09-02-2012 07:09 PM

You should not leave primer exposed.
I like to sand all of it, prime and paint all sides then paint it one coat before even going up. That way all sides are sealed, less chance of it cupping.
Then all you have to do is the touch up painting to do.

socrates 09-02-2012 07:38 PM

It's ok to leave primer exposed on interior walls right...?

user1007 09-02-2012 07:44 PM

Depending on what type of siding you have you might consider a quality solid acrylic stain like SW Woodscapes. You can mix it to any color. Apply to new or painted siding.

ltd 09-02-2012 10:31 PM

just a little tip :huh:.when using oil cover stain i prefer to use a nylon polyester brush vs a china bristle brush.also as mentioned a splash of thinner in your cutting bucket :yes:

chrisn 09-03-2012 03:39 AM


Originally Posted by socrates (Post 1001904)
It's ok to leave primer exposed on interior walls right...?

not for too long:no:

notmrjohn 09-03-2012 01:40 PM

Best not to leave bare primer or 1st coat un=coated in kitchen any longer than neccessary, amazing how much oil and grease is in air and you just spent time cleaning it from cabinets. Hey, really like that partical board window treatment.:wink:

socrates 09-03-2012 06:13 PM

thanks, so far I've just primed the family room I didn't even mess with the kitchen because all the walls and ceiling needs to be floated. Ya the particle board window treatment has been my favorite part.... Long story short swat blew out all the windows with bean bags tear gas and everything else and made some pretty good marks in the walls too... I am finally almost done replacing the windows it's been a pretty fun ordeal... Not only was the house in pretty sad shape to begin with but swat coming there three times to blow out windows knock down doors etc didn't help the situation...... Once it's done though It'll be great... until then all I can do is keep chipping away at the projects... :)

notmrjohn 09-03-2012 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by socrates (Post 1002545)
...swat blew out all the windows with bean bags tear gas... swat coming there three time...s

Ask um to pretty please stop doing that, specially after you put in all that work.

socrates 09-03-2012 11:35 PM

hahaha ya, luckily unlike the previous owner I don't plan to cause problems... It's all uphill from here! haha

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