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Old 03-03-2013, 12:03 PM   #1
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Hello diyérs
o.k I want to paint the entire interior o a 1940's ranch.
All the walls are plaster. All the trim is stained and poly-ied pine.
Two rooms are wood paneling -also polyurethane( or whatever was use in
the late 40's. (@1500 sq/ft)

I would like to:
1. paint all the ceilings with plain white ceiling paint.
2. paint all the trim and doors with a super durable oil paint.
3. paint wood paneling with a modern light color.
4. and finally, paint all the walls with an eggshell.

My main questions are just about the proper order to do all this.
What do I paint first? what do I tape off first, second etc...
What is the best way/best products to use for masking?

I have a nice airless sprayer. I figured I would use the sprayer for the trim
doors/and ceiling. and rollers on the walls

Basically I want to be a learn how to be a pro from one posting(or at least
do a good job faking it!)
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Hello diyérs
o.k I want to paint the entire interior o a 1940's ranch.
All the walls are plaster. All the trim is stained and poly-ied pine.
Two rooms are wood paneling -also polyurethane( or whatever was use in
the late 40's. (@1500 sq/ft)

I would like to:
1. paint all the ceilings with plain white ceiling paint.
Always paint the ceiling first.
2. paint all the trim and doors with a super durable oil paint.
Why oil based? A lot more work with clean up, slower drying time.
3. paint wood paneling with a modern light color.
Going to have to clean then sand, then clean agin then use a bonding primer before painting.
4. and finally, paint all the walls with an eggshell.

My main questions are just about the proper order to do all this.
What do I paint first? what do I tape off first, second etc...
What is the best way/best products to use for masking?
Learn how to use a 2-1/2 quality sash brush and skip all the taping.

I have a nice airless sprayer. I figured I would use the sprayer for the trim
doors/and ceiling. and rollers on the walls
Forget about trying to use a sprayer for this, stick with the brush and the roller.
Your going to end up spending way to much time masking, cleaning up over spray, and filling and cleaning the tools.
Unless it's new constrution with no furiture or finished floor I doubt your going to see a pro spray painting inside a house.
Basically I want to be a learn how to be a pro from one posting(or at least
do a good job faking it!)
Thanks
Brian
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First, paint the ceiling. You can be a little sloppy around the edges because that will be covered with the cut in for the walls.

I would take down the paneling if that is an option for you. Otherwise, lightly sand with an orbital sander, then prime and paint.

Paint the walls next. If they are already painted and in good condition, there is problem no reason to prime first. Now is the time to cut in along the ceiling edge very cleanly. No tape is needed. You can be a little sloppy along the trim because you'll be painting that last.

Finally paint the trim. If you want to use a sprayer, that's great and it will go fast. However you will have to do a LOT of taping and covering with plastic. Sprayed paint gets everywhere. Prep work and cleanup is about 90% of the effort, and actual painting is about 10%.

Alternatively you can brush the trim. Now is the time to make a nice clean line.

It's easier to paint a clean line along the baseboard with trim paint than with wall paint. However, if you find it easier to paint a clean line with wall paint against the door trim, then paint the door trim first, sloppily, then cut in a clean line with the wall paint. In none of these cases (brushing) is tape necessary.

I would not use oil paint on the trim. If you want a harder finish, then get one of the newer "waterborne" oils. It can't be cleaned with water alone, but at least with soap and water.
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Go to you tube and search for how to..
Paint walls
Paint trim
Use a sprayer etc. ( which as an untrained non painter I would completely suggest DON"T)
You can learn a ton by going through old posts here too.

Or you could hire someone who already knew how before you do some serious damage to your place.

Just a suggestion..
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Before you even buy the first can of paint... WASH the walls.
You would be amazed at how good a clean wall can look even without new paint.

If there are any defects or damage... fix them.
Spackle, sand, prime, etc.

Consider a good primer coat for the whole room as well.
This is especially good as a base for old plaster walls.

Notice you've done about 3 days or weeks work and you haven't even bought paint yet?
Be sure to have good brushes and rollers when you do buy it.
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No need for an oil to paint doors and trim. Most oil paints yellow over time and many oil paints have been fazed out due to VOC restrictions. Use a quality latex such as Sherwin-Williams Proclassic. It is just as durable as an oil and won't yellow with time.
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Ceiling, trim, then the walls in that ordered.
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It's difficult to get a clean line along the baseboard if the baseboard is painted first. Gravity works against you here when painting the wall. It works in your favor when painting the baseboard second.

If I don't have to paint the baseboard, then it's one of the few times I use tape. Specifically this, to lay along the little top edge of the baseboard.

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Or just paint the baseboard last.
I just hate to see tape used, 1/2 the time it ends up peeling off some of the paint as it's removed.
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Brian, allow me to make one minor correction. Wherever two colors meet, one of those colors is overlapped, purposely, completely, on to the adjoining surface by a inch or so. Just be sure that on the adjoining surface you don't leave a build-up or edge, use a dry brush to feather it out. Feel free to poke around my links below, there are articles on roller covers, rolling ceilings and walls, and a tutorial on painting lines without using tape. Good luck.
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Go to you tube and search for how to..
Paint walls
Paint trim
Use a sprayer etc. ( which as an untrained non painter I would completely suggest DON"T)
You can learn a ton by going through old posts here too.

Or you could hire someone who already knew how before you do some serious damage to your place.

Just a suggestion..
Actually, I painted my 3000 sq ft showroom with an airless sprayer. Drop ceiling, walls, even an old concrete floor. It turned out great. If I were to hire someone, there would be no reason for me to learn and inquire from professionals. Thats why I joined the forum. Thanks anyways though
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First, paint the ceiling. You can be a little sloppy around the edges because that will be covered with the cut in for the walls.

I would take down the paneling if that is an option for you. Otherwise, lightly sand with an orbital sander, then prime and paint.

Paint the walls next. If they are already painted and in good condition, there is problem no reason to prime first. Now is the time to cut in along the ceiling edge very cleanly. No tape is needed. You can be a little sloppy along the trim because you'll be painting that last.

Finally paint the trim. If you want to use a sprayer, that's great and it will go fast. However you will have to do a LOT of taping and covering with plastic. Sprayed paint gets everywhere. Prep work and cleanup is about 90% of the effort, and actual painting is about 10%.

Alternatively you can brush the trim. Now is the time to make a nice clean line.

It's easier to paint a clean line along the baseboard with trim paint than with wall paint. However, if you find it easier to paint a clean line with wall paint against the door trim, then paint the door trim first, sloppily, then cut in a clean line with the wall paint. In none of these cases (brushing) is tape necessary.

I would not use oil paint on the trim. If you want a harder finish, then get one of the newer "waterborne" oils. It can't be cleaned with water alone, but at least with soap and water.
Hey Thanks
Thats what I needed. The proper/most efficient order.
I think I decided to not try to spray oil paint through my sprayer.
I'm just going to brush it. Its really not that much trim.
I'll save my sprayer for larger, water based paint jobs.
I have looked into some of the newer water "oils".
I wantthe most durable finish I can get.
And... I want to try oil to learn a bit, and to say I have done it before.
Thanks!
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Ceiling, trim, then the walls in that ordered.
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Brian, allow me to make one minor correction. Wherever two colors meet, one of those colors is overlapped, purposely, completely, on to the adjoining surface by a inch or so. Just be sure that on the adjoining surface you don't leave a build-up or edge, use a dry brush to feather it out. Feel free to poke around my links below, there are articles on roller covers, rolling ceilings and walls, and a tutorial on painting lines without using tape. Good luck.

This is my first post here.
Apparently I need 10 quotes to access links.
I would love to read the articles.
uh.... can you send them to me via private message or email?
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No need for an oil to paint doors and trim. Most oil paints yellow over time and many oil paints have been fazed out due to VOC restrictions. Use a quality latex such as Sherwin-Williams Proclassic. It is just as durable as an oil and won't yellow with time.

What about durability?
About 5 people have now told me: no reason to use oil paint.
But I want a super durable scrub-able surface.
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