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Old 03-09-2013, 10:35 AM   #1
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I am getting ready to paint my 1400' add on.
It consist of
1.splatter drag texture over new drywall
2.FJ trim and 6 panel hardboard doors
and 500' of 4'' WM 48- MDF Crown
3.maple cabinet's to be painted white (65 doors and drawers)
4 . I will be using and airless Spraytech to paint with
what is the best order to begin?
1.paint trim first then mask off trim to paint walls
2. or paint walls and ceiling 1st then mask wall's and paint trim?
3 what is a good technique for painting the cabinet doors while on the cabinets
4 and whike we are at it what is the difference between a PVA primer for new drywall and a product like PPG's SEAL GRIP® Acrylic Universal Primer/Sealer

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To be honest, I think this job might be beyond where you are as a painter.
Have you ever sprayed?
Cabs are hard- most pros spend years learning good technique for spraying them. Almost never done together- but the systems to do it right take a while to know and develop.
Spend some time searching and reading on what you are doing here- you will learn a lot.

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You will spend more time masking and cleaning the sprayer than you will save over brush & roller..
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Old 03-09-2013, 05:27 PM   #4
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i spray on Impervo oil and doesn't know I am not a pro
goes smooth as silk every time.
The Ben Moore store left and all we have close is a PPG store
the manager says I will be happy with the manor Royal latex enamel
I will try some on the doors. It's hard to mess up textured 6 panels
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rolling 6500 sq ft of drywall would ruin my spring break,
the question was--- is a PVA primer better or = to a BIN primer you all are always recommending
or is it in addition to the regular primer
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rolling 6500 sq ft of drywall would ruin my spring break,
the question was--- is a PVA primer better or = to a BIN primer you all are always recommending
or is it in addition to the regular primer
Good you know how to spray.
And where did your question say anything about BIN?

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4 and whike we are at it what is the difference between a PVA primer for new drywall and a product like PPG's SEAL GRIP® Acrylic Universal Primer/Sealer
My worry is because you don't really know the difference between shellac based primer ( and how it works) and a PVA, and an Acrylic primer sealer- I have a sneaking suspicion that you are overstating your spray skills.

But who are we to stop you-

Here's a couple of things on the primers.
First- think of primers as problem solvers. There are many different kinds because there are many different kinds of problems.
BIN- is a pigmented Shellac ( uses denatured alcohol to thin) . Best stain killer/ odor stopper there is . Very strong odor to work with, but it will dissapate fast with good ventelation.
PVA-(poly vinyl acetate) just a raw wall primer- some like it, I never use it for anything.
Primer / sealers- usually will give a stronger bond and more complete seal- can be used on many surfaces. And there are many types of this .

You could walk in to the PPG store and ask what is best for bare sheetrock- bet they'd have one for you.
Priming the cabs is a different situation.
Are they new wood or primed or painted?

Want to see a paint co that knows how to do this stuff?
check out the link- he's a guy that posts over on the pro board. These guys have it going on.

http://www.shearerpainting.com/blog/

OK- Found the part I was looking for- look at how they set up the cabs for painting..
http://www.shearerpainting.com/blog/...ugh-sept-2012/
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Topcoat also recommends the primer. A straight drywall primer, PVA, is okay for a flat topcoat, but a sealer/undercoater is better for a sheen topcoat like matte, eggshell, satin. A sealer with enamel holdout will not draw the sheen out of the topcoat.
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Nice links there BJ. Looks like a great outfit.
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You might want to talk to your PPG store about a product called Breakthough from what I have heard and read it may be what you need for the cabinets. I can't get it where I am but have not heard anything bad about it.
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My BM store sells a lot of Breakthrough, and for cabinets. I've used it once on an exterior porch floor, real nice product.
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You can get PPG products through your BM dealer? From what I have read to spray it the finish for cabinets is super smooth and very hard.
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Yes, my BM dealer is not a company store. They carry full BM and a decent line of PPG products.

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