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Old 02-08-2012, 12:59 AM   #16
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Im gonna do it. Unless your using a high build primer I honestly don't think their will be a difference. We shall see.

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Cool!!

It's always good to see a real-life test.
Hopefully you'll take pics?!??!

For most FLAT paints, there won't be as big a difference.
The higher the sheen though, the more important a better primer is...

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Old 02-08-2012, 01:11 AM   #18
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Indeed. Well I have so many types of brands and sheens , the possibilities of sample test are endless lol.

I typically like to do nearly everything in satin. But I think Ill do 3 rows vertically Pva/123/promar
and then flat/satin/semi across them horizontally and yes I shall take pics.

Plenty of leftover drywall in the garage but Ill probably use my kitchen anyway.
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Lookin' forward to it!!

I better get to bed now!

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Well, I'm just about convinced to go with Promar 200 primer since it will be effective for both new drywall and previously painted surfaces.

I don’t know if I should have mentioned it or not, but the sheen of my paint will between Matt, Satin or Eggshell at the most. I was thinking of Eggshell since that's what I am used to going with but the sales person at BM was telling me that the matt and Satin which are a gloss level down from egg would leave a very nice, modern and easy going finish to the walls so I am contemplating these sheens now.

Part 2 of this question is after primer…I've read some places that if I go with SW I should stick with them as well for the regular paint however I sorta liked what I saw at the BM store while initially looking for primer (and I always loved the color pallet with Behr…especially the Disney colors since this is my 2 year olds room). Will it make any difference at all if I use a good quality Primer like SW Promar 200 then change it up to another company / brand for the actual color? If I go with BM, I will use the Regal or Aura, if with Behr, it would be the Premium Plus line.

Also, crazy question, painting over drywall should be no different than painting over existing paint no, I guess it will just "feel" a little different going over paper vs latex? Someone told me to use different size rollers for primer and paint…one was a 10mm and the other I think 15mm..would this be accurate? Something about how much paint I need to apply to the drywall.

Like I said, I'm the type to overkill things, even when not needed, or really not needed. If I were to do 2 coats of primer to really start with a perfect white canvas as my starting point, let's say I do 2 coats of Promar 200 to make it perfectly white and even, would that cause me any problems or would they not stick to each other?
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I can see how the adhesion qualities in a paint would attach better to the adhesion properties of a primer from the same company but I have always passed that off mostly as a sales pitch for paint companies.

From what I have read on these forums in my whole 2 days here is that most people are anti-anything and everything if they sell it at home depot but I think that the behr premium plus is a good paint, but what do I know, I also use PVA lol.

The actual application is not much different over new drywall compared to a painted surface except you can apply slightly more pressure on your roller to new drywall working the material in without the roller slipping.

If your going to go with two coats of primer make sure you allow the 1st coat proper dry time. Some primers needs a while before recoat, and some primers need to be recoated within a certain amount of time. Follow the label. I would take that oppurtunity to really fine tune your mud job. While rolling your first coat you can scan your walls and take note of any flaws and imperfections. Add a little bit of water to your topping compound and go through with a little putty knife fixing any errors, let dry and lightly sponge the edges before applying your second coat.

Choosing a roller nap is based on the texture of the wall. If you have no texture and your walls are perfectly smooth go no bigger than 3/8 nap, 1/4 inch nap, may take a bit longer, but will get you a better finish with less stipple. A 15mm roller on either primer or paint will leave you a pretty heavy stipple texture. Some people like it, some dont. If you have any extra drywall, you could always pick yourself up a couple different size naps and try them out, see what gives you the finish your looking for but smooth wall I would not go bigger than 3/8.

Biggest mistake I see people make when rolling is using all the paint on the roller, dont be afraid to dip that puppy and get more paint. Once you squeeze all the paint out of a roller, it will not fluff back out. Painting a small wall from corner to corner you can apply the paint very quickly and generously not worrying too much about lines and such and then go back over it when the roller has less material, with NO pressure and nice even strokes from top to bottom and lay off your lines.
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Well, I'm just about convinced to go with Promar 200 primer since it will be effective for both new drywall and previously painted surfaces.

I don’t know if I should have mentioned it or not, but the sheen of my paint will between Matt, Satin or Eggshell at the most. I was thinking of Eggshell since that's what I am used to going with but the sales person at BM was telling me that the matt and Satin which are a gloss level down from egg would leave a very nice, modern and easy going finish to the walls so I am contemplating these sheens now.

Part 2 of this question is after primer…I've read some places that if I go with SW I should stick with them as well for the regular paint however I sorta liked what I saw at the BM store while initially looking for primer (and I always loved the color pallet with Behr…especially the Disney colors since this is my 2 year olds room). Will it make any difference at all if I use a good quality Primer like SW Promar 200 then change it up to another company / brand for the actual color? No

You can take ANY color sample to either SW or BM and get it matched. I would avoid Behr like the plague

If I go with BM, I will use the Regal or Aura, if with Behr, it would be the Premium Plus line.

Also, crazy question, painting over drywall should be no different than painting over existing paint no, I guess it will just "feel" a little different going over paper vs latex? Someone told me to use different size rollers for primer and paint…one was a 10mm and the other I think 15mm..would this be accurate? Something about how much paint I need to apply to the drywall.

Like I said, I'm the type to overkill things, even when not needed, or really not needed. If I were to do 2 coats of primer

Not necessary,1 coat of primer is all you need, 2 is just a waste of $$


to really start with a perfect white canvas as my starting point, let's say I do 2 coats of Promar 200 to make it perfectly white and even, would that cause me any problems or would they not stick to each other?
Use a 1/2 or a 3/8 for both primer and paint
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Old 02-10-2012, 01:58 PM   #23
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I just came from a local SW store, was going in to buy their Promar 200 but after a long conversation with the salesperson (who seemed to be doing this a long time), he suggested i actually use their "Multi-Purpose Latex Primer" telling me it's a slightly better product for my needs (both new and previously painted drywall which may or may not contain stains. He said the Promar is thicker primer, but that the Multi Purpose is both a Primer and Sealer (also mentioned on the packaging vs. only primer for the Promar 200) and Promar is more contractor grade paint vs a good quality residential paint.

So, I told him i'd be back and wanted another opinion.

Granted, the Multi Purpose is slightly more expensive, not enough to stop me from buying it though.
So, is the multi purpose really better and if i were to "upgrade" to that, will it still do what i want / need it to do?
Anyone have any experience with this one?

The multi purpose got very good ratings on their website as well.
http://www.sherwin-williams.com/do_i...tings/primers/

Feedback please! Again, I'm more of an overkill type of guy, is the Multi Purpose just more overkill than Promar 200 or are they completely different?

Once again, thanks for the very valuable info!!
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I wish people would place were they are from. it would help those who post after the OP give the best advice. I can see from a DIY point of view they only know about thing to four things about paint and primers in order here they are
1 SWP
2 BM
3 behr
4 Valspar
and what ever else is cheap.
I would love to give advice on some things SWP is great paint as is BM at a premium price. I can recommend some high quality paints for half the price that are not from a box store
Kelly-Moore you want a great Sheetrock primer use 95-102 Pro it is for sheet rock and cost half of what SWP or BM will sell you.

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