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Old 07-07-2014, 06:20 PM   #1
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Primer for old dry paint?


So, I got the Kilz original on the plaster walls and am extremely happy with the results. In fact, I'm completely amazed at how well that stuff seems to stick to things including me.

However, I still need to prime the wood trim which has a very chalky dry once was white paint on it. I didn't use the Kilz because I was concentrating on the walls and ceiling, now I kind of wonder if that was a dumb move.

Do I even need a primer if the paint seems reasonably solid and not dusty / powdery? It's just very dry feeling and I have no idea how old it is, could be 40+ years old judging by the wallpaper we took down. If I had to guess, I don't see any reason paint wouldn't bond to it extremely well but I don't want to do something stupid if I can avoid it.

I cannot find Zinsser Gardz anywhere locally so if possible, would prefer to find an alternative.

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It would be safer to use a bonding primer. The Kilz will work.....kind of. It sticks pretty well just by virtue of being oil base, but its not really a bonding primer.

It being a dull, flat paint your going over helps, but as old as it is its almost certainly oil base. And latex paint over oil doesn't usually bond well.

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It would be safer to use a bonding primer. The Kilz will work.....kind of. It sticks pretty well just by virtue of being oil base, but its not really a bonding primer.

It being a dull, flat paint your going over helps, but as old as it is its almost certainly oil base. And latex paint over oil doesn't usually bond well.

Is there a good bonding primer you can recommend for this application?
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Zinsser 1-2-3 is your best friend in this situation:
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Zinsser 1-2-3 is your best friend in this situation:

I've heard a lot of good things about this primer.
Is it also good for joint compound / drywall, or just painted surfaces like I am dealing with?

Not sure if others will see this question but, I read something regarding sanding semi-gloss paint before painting. While this is a completely different topic, I'm using satin latex on my walls and ceiling and semi-gloss latex on trim (I hate flat paint). Will I need to sand to take some of the sheen off before painting in the future?
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Yes, you need to scuff sand a semi-gloss surface before painting. Wipe off the dust before applying any paint.

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