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Old 11-08-2010, 09:11 AM   #1
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Must you prime with one of the blocking primes,Gartz etc. after you remove wallpaper and then want to skim coat. Can you just skim coat without priming the wall

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YES...it's a MUST. PERIOD.

I'd never give clients THAT advice (skipping Gardz)!!!

Using Gardz sealer >>> after all glue is removed and rinsed well <<< guarantees no problems with drywall paper-edges lifting, etc. Any exposed gypsum is sealed-off too. Basically, Gardz "glues everything down".

The ONE/RIGHT way to do this:
* Scrape/rinse, rinse, rinse/let dry.
* Prime with Gardz.
* NOW you can safely do repairs/mudding, etc.
* When repairs are sanded and rinsed and wall is TOTALLY dust free...
* Apply a good/full coat of a top-notch primer like 123. PVA "wallboard" primers are OK, but 123-class primers are MUCH better.
* AT LAST ...you're ready for TWO good finish coats.

See?! Doing it RIGHT means you have to prime TWICE !!

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I've never used Gardz. What's it about? My preference is Zinnzer 123 or Kilz plus for acrylic and Kilz regular for oil based.
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Thx 4 the pic. I've seen it on the shelves. What is it like? thick, thin? Pigmented, clear? In other words, "what's it about?"
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Very thin and watery and clear, but it does the job of sealing residual wall paper paste.
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After removing all the paper and getting as much glue off that i can i realize that i have some bad areas because of picture and shelve hanging and removal. Should i roll on Gardz first then do the repairs and skim. Or should i do the repairs then Gardz and skim
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Before AND after.
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I just used Gardz on my kitchen walls after wall paper removal, and I have to say it is a little tricky to do! It's pretty much like skim milk! I used a brush and roller, you have to get it on just thick enough to completely cover the wall, but not too much or it runs down like water. I just used my roller to go over the same spot until it was just right. It takes 30 min to dry, but when it does it looks pretty nice. I don't need to skim coat cuz my walls were in prettty good shape, just patched a few nail holes and small cracks in the corner! Good luck!
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I just used Gardz on my kitchen walls after wall paper removal, and I have to say it is a little tricky to do! It's pretty much like skim milk! I used a brush and roller, you have to get it on just thick enough to completely cover the wall, but not too much or it runs down like water. I just used my roller to go over the same spot until it was just right. It takes 30 min to dry, but when it does it looks pretty nice. I don't need to skim coat cuz my walls were in prettty good shape, just patched a few nail holes and small cracks in the corner! Good luck!

You really need a micro fibre cover( such as this) for this product.

http://www.thepaintstore.com/ArroWor...ver_p/mfr2.htm

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