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Old 02-19-2012, 02:03 PM   #16
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What type of primer did you use? TSP has nothing to do with what you are seeing. TSP is mearly a cleaner. And honestly, you probably don't even need the TSP unless the wood was heavily soiled from a smoker or grease of some kind.

If you use the wrong primer the stains will eventually come through. Maybe not in a week, maybe not in a month but they will come through. Same thing will happen if you just paint over the wood without primer.

Follow all of our advice (joecaption, ARC) and please get some bonding primer.
I just used some cheap Glidden primer, but it didn't cover very well.

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Old 02-19-2012, 02:58 PM   #17
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Oh my has this been an ordeal.

I got some Kilz heavy stain blocking primer. I can't get Zinsser in this town, for some reason no one has it. The Kilz is oil based and the people at the hardware store nor a Google search can give me a straight answer as to if it is okay to cover up the existing latex with the new oil based.

The label says I can paint OVER the primer with latex or oil, but doesn't specify what it can be painted ONTO. It just says to make sure that the existing paint isn't peeling.

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Where do you live, OuterBumFunk?
The problem with Kilz, though it's a stain blocker, it's not a bonding primer. You should be fine applying it over previously painted surfaces, but that's not really necessary if it's not stained. Previously painted surfaces generally require a sanding only prior to refinishing. If I'm understanding you correctly, you have both finished previously painted walls and walls with paneling, correct? The painted walls need sanding and repainting only, unless some sort of staining exists, then apply the Kilz. For the panel walls you need adhesion and stain blocking. Whatever you applied already over the paneling (pictured) is going to have to stay. Just apply a coat of the Kilz over that to kill the stain and then paint.
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Old 02-19-2012, 04:07 PM   #18
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Where do you live, OuterBumFunk?
The problem with Kilz, though it's a stain blocker, it's not a bonding primer. You should be fine applying it over previously painted surfaces, but that's not really necessary if it's not stained. Previously painted surfaces generally require a sanding only prior to refinishing. If I'm understanding you correctly, you have both finished previously painted walls and walls with paneling, correct? The painted walls need sanding and repainting only, unless some sort of staining exists, then apply the Kilz. For the panel walls you need adhesion and stain blocking. Whatever you applied already over the paneling (pictured) is going to have to stay. Just apply a coat of the Kilz over that to kill the stain and then paint.
Pretty much. Here in a town of 6,000 in the middle of nowhere haha. So it will be safe to paint the Kilz oil base over my existing latex base paint?
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Old 02-19-2012, 04:31 PM   #19
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Just wanted to post another picture for reference. The left was painted with three coats of paint. The right was primed once and painted with two coats. The tannin is apparent on the primed side but unnoticed on the painted side. Weird.

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Old 02-19-2012, 08:09 PM   #20
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Perhaps I've just been lucky, but I've painted two different wood-paneled rooms in my home with ease. I have used both Kilz and Zinsser, and both work fine. I then painted with an interior latex. It's been about eight years since the rooms were painted... no problems.

If you want more details about Kilz Oil based primers, check out the site: http://www.kilz.com/masterchem/v/ind...008a05d103RCRD
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:45 PM   #21
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Just wanted everyone to know how things are progressing

Sanded the old latex area until I couldn't sand anymore. Sanded the paneling that I hadn't applied anything to until I couldn't sand anymore. Cleaned both areas with TSP.

Applied the Kilz oil based stain blocking primer with success! It is sticking very nicely and all the stains are gone! I was having my doubts as to if it was actually going to cover them up haha. I will let it cure for a few days before I paint the final color, as I am sick and tired of messing with these silly walls.....


This is the point where you realize that it would had been way faster to just tear out the paneling....
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Finished product. The paint is holding like a champ!

Turns out the local hardware store is carrying zinsser now. Go figure.

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People who paint wood paneling should be shot what a waist of wood and beauty. What next paint carpet?
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People who paint wood paneling should be shot what a waist of wood and beauty. What next paint carpet?
I'm glad you enjoy 30 year old wood paneling, and I'm sure other people still love it as well. I have seen lots of wood paneling that is beautiful. I was sick and tired of seeing my dark brown dungeon of a living room. A living area should be light and airy not dark and depressing. I feel change is good every few decades.

Do you know a good way to paint carpet? Looking to save a few bucks

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lol good one

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