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Old 02-03-2013, 12:18 PM   #1
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Painting windows and primer is pulling away in spme spots. Help


I am priming windows and the paint is pulling away in areas. Not sure why. I caulked windows and was wondering if it can be that. Also i know i am painting over another laytex paint. How can I get the paint to stick in these areas?
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Looks like some sort of silicone based cleaner was used on the woodwork? Either that or someone smeared silicone caulk all over the woodwork and tried to wipe it off. I would recommend a thorough sanding with a palm sander to remove whatever "Gunk" is on the woodwork. Clean thoroughly with warm water only and wipe off with a towel to really get it clean. Then retry applying your primer. You may have to resort to using a bonding primer like Zinsser's 1-2-3........it sticks to anything.

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Thank you so much for your advise. It could be the caulk I used. Dang! I should have done that last after painting.
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Did you use !00% silicone caulk? Read the tube- does it say paintable?
If not- IT ISN"T.
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Did you use !00% silicone caulk? Read the tube- does it say paintable?
If not- IT ISN"T.
Well you are right. That caulk isn't paintable and the Zinsser123 isn't working either. Any suggestions? Do i need to sand the windows to get the caulk off? This is frustrating
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I would use a razor blade to cut and scrape the caulk off.You're going to have to get it off before the paint will bond.Caulk it with a paintable caulk before priming with the 1-2-3.
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A green scotch bright will help get it off.
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Looks like some sort of silicone based cleaner was used on the woodwork? Either that or someone smeared silicone caulk all over the woodwork and tried to wipe it off. I would recommend a thorough sanding with a palm sander to remove whatever "Gunk" is on the woodwork. Clean thoroughly with warm water only and wipe off with a towel to really get it clean. Then retry applying your primer. You may have to resort to using a bonding primer like Zinsser's 1-2-3........it sticks to anything.

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I find it hard to believe you got that much caulking on that big an area.
I'm thinking it's possible that paint is old, not mixed up enough or it's at one point froze.
One way to find out try it in an area where you know there's no silicone.

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I find it hard to believe you got that much caulking on that big an area.
thats what i was thinking. gotta be really messy for it to get that bad.
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You would have to use your whole palm of your hand not just a finger to spread it that wide.
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Have any of you guys ever seen any DIY'ers caulk? No offense to the OP but I have seen them smear it up really good.
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I would try to do as good a job as possible with physical removal and then do a coat with an oil primer. That is what we do and it always seems to stick to the silicon.

Silicon is very good at what it does but its applications are limited. Unless your project involves tiling, counters, a shower, or a bathtub, steer clear of the silicon!
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You would have to use your whole palm of your hand not just a finger to spread it that wide.
Painters wouldn't do that, but, General Contractors would!
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Thanks for your reply. I Put this silicone on 7 windows! What a huge mistake! Its taking me 2 days to scrape it away. Is it okay if i prime first then caulk with the paintable caulk? Or should I caulk first?

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