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Old 12-11-2012, 11:37 AM   #16
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JHO- Don't worry about it- it's the nature of online forums.
Actually keeps it interesting to us who hang out here alot.
And this is tame- you should see some of the gaming sites I got to!

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I have to keep all that in mind and not take things so seriously. Thanks!

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I'd have to reveal my other alter egos! lol.
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Any signwriters out there? Just wanted to have a word or two.
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So Bob- is explaining a more efficient way to paint that every painter that has painted for more than a week uses looking down, or informing?
Go read my post, then go to see it for real here.
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Never tried it that way -- is that the right way, the wrong way, or just an alternate way?
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I just watched this video. Couple questions --

1. Going up and down like he did, I thought you were supposed to finish every stroke in the same direction?

2. No primer?

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I just watched this video. Couple questions --

1. Going up and down like he did, I thought you were supposed to finish every stroke in the same direction?

2. No primer?

Thanks.

Finishing with a down stroke will give you the most even finish with any paint that has a sheen. Its not as important with flat paint.
Of course, not every painter does that.

Primer? Who needs primer, this is 2014
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No primer? Even on new drywall?
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No primer? Even on new drywall?

Sure, many new paints are rated for application directly to new dry wall. Some examples are; Super paint, Regal Select, Emerald, Aura, Valspar Ultra, etc.,etc.

I did a whole new house last year with no primer, just two coats of self priming satin paint. Turned out great.
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Finishing with a down stroke will give you the most even finish with any paint that has a sheen. Its not as important with flat paint.
Of course, not every painter does that.

Primer? Who needs primer, this is 2014
Thanks Jmays. Just dumped all the primer...
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Oh. I never knew that. I know some paints are rated paint/primer in one, but I was always a bit skeptical of that. I figured there was something to the "new drywall" rated primer that did something special.
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I usually describe my "Hybrid" technique to our customers who want to make their painting look better:

AFTER all cutting-in is done...
* Try to work in 3'-wide columns. On a normal 8' wall, I mention rolling-out four roughly equal "blocks" in a column, starting in upper-left.
* Use whatever "letter/pattern" you want to fill the block!
* Obviously, each block in the stack will be ~~ 2'x3'.
* Re-load roller after each block.
* THEN...the important part!
* Immediately after finishing bottom block, bring roller back to upper-left, & LIGHTLY SWEEP the column...top-to-bottom, in one light even roll. Move over almost one roller-width & repeat the light, top-down stroke.
* DON'T re-load after lowest block is done.
* Next...another 3' column!
* This gets most rookies to put enough paint on the wall, instead of the tendency to waaaaayyyy over-stretch their paint!

I do this at home...and my results are flawless.

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I usually describe my "Hybrid" technique to our customers who want to make their painting look better:

AFTER all cutting-in is done...
* Try to work in 3'-wide columns. On a normal 8' wall, I mention rolling-out four roughly equal "blocks" in a column, starting in upper-left.
* Use whatever "letter/pattern" you want to fill the block!
* Obviously, each block in the stack will be ~~ 2'x3'.
* Re-load roller after each block.
* THEN...the important part!
* Immediately after finishing bottom block, bring roller back to upper-left, & LIGHTLY SWEEP the column...top-to-bottom, in one light even roll. Move over almost one roller-width & repeat the light, top-down stroke.
* DON'T re-load after lowest block is done.
* Next...another 3' column!
* This gets most rookies to put enough paint on the wall, instead of the tendency to waaaaayyyy over-stretch their paint!

I do this at home...and my results are flawless.

Faron

I have used similar techniques. The point of the W technique, and similar ones, is to get a thicker coat of paint on and spread it more evenly without the 'flash' marks that can show from too much up and down motion of the roller.

The exact way you do it is less important than simply getting a thick film on and finish stroking it all in the same direction.

With a few new faster drying paints like Aura, the W and related techniques are no longer recommended. There simply isn't enough 'open' time to the paint to allow you to do all that rolling without overworking the material. With these fast drying paints, its better to stick with up and down and minimize the strokes. Two or three passes with the roller max, with the last one always going down, seems to provide the best results.
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With a few new faster drying paints like Aura, the W and related techniques are no longer recommended. There simply isn't enough 'open' time to the paint to allow you to do all that rolling without overworking the material. With these fast drying paints, its better to stick with up and down and minimize the strokes. Two or three passes with the roller max, with the last one always going down, seems to provide the best results.
JMays, great, great point! I was gonna say (you beat me to it) that the way today's paints set up that doing a "W", especially a wide "W" may leave you with a permanent "W" imbedded on your drywall if you don't work extremely fast. Good info.

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