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analogmusicman 01-27-2013 05:30 PM

painting a "powder room"
 
I've always used enamel paint for bathrooms (and kitchens). is this still necessary for a "powder room"?

tnx,

joecaption 01-27-2013 05:34 PM

Nope, but it would hold up better to cleaning.

Brushjockey 01-27-2013 05:39 PM

What do you mean by enamel?

Kind of an antiquated term-- but i would suggest an eggshell finish for a bath/ powder.

analogmusicman 01-27-2013 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brushjockey (Post 1103475)
What do you mean by enamel?

Kind of an antiquated term-- but i would suggest an eggshell finish for a bath/ powder.

I don't thhink "enemel" is such an antiquated term. there's regular interior paint and then there's enamel when toughness (or water-resistance) is required.

tnx,

joecaption 01-27-2013 06:51 PM

Nothing old about that term.
http://www.sherwin-williams.com/sear...on=&Ntt=Enamel

I've used it many times.

Brushjockey 01-27-2013 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by analogmusicman (Post 1103537)
I don't thhink "enemel" is such an antiquated term. there's regular interior paint and then there's enamel when toughness (or water-resistance) is required.

tnx,


So is any semi gloss also an enamel? And if not, why?

Enamel these days seems to be applied to anything above a flat.
And those things being labeled enamel have all sorts of degrees of hardness.

But that is beside your question- use something with some sheen. Call it enamel. Many do.

joecaption 01-27-2013 07:41 PM

Enamel meams "hard surface paint." Nothing to do with the sheen.
It can be bought in several differant sheens, also can be oil or water based.

Brushjockey 01-27-2013 07:54 PM

So he should use an eggshell for his powder. I would . Works great.
Is Regal Select eggshell an enamel?

I know painters that use Regal semi on trim. is it an enamel?
I think WB Impervo is kind of soft- even after cure. Is it an enamel?
I like Muralo WB Ultra Semi. I think it's an enamel...
Zinnser 123 primer is really hard when cured. is it an enamel?

The definition is a hold over from when oils ( yes, ones with sheens) dried and cured really hard. Some WB approach that, but not many.
Most of the paints on your list were baked on specialty finishes.

Not going to argue the point, because even I use the term, but it is VERY loosely defined.

chrisn 01-28-2013 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brushjockey (Post 1103614)
So he should use an eggshell for his powder. I would . Works great.
Is Regal Select eggshell an enamel?

I know painters that use Regal semi on trim. is it an enamel?
I think WB Impervo is kind of soft- even after cure. Is it an enamel?
I like Muralo WB Ultra Semi. I think it's an enamel...
Zinnser 123 primer is really hard when cured. is it an enamel?

The definition is a hold over from when oils ( yes, ones with sheens) dried and cured really hard. Some WB approach that, but not many.
Most of the paints on your list were baked on specialty finishes.

Not going to argue the point, because even I use the term, but it is VERY loosely defined.

better watch out, you know who might be reading this:laughing:

jsheridan 01-28-2013 06:16 AM

I think the one thing we've learned in the biz is that there is a ton of variation, from brand to brand, and even within the same brand. As applicators we don't necessarily need to understand the chemistry, but we do need to know what each product can and can't do and how to achieve the look and meet the needs of our customers. That comes from knowing the range of products available, experience. We can't just trust the paint companies, not so much because they deceive, but more so because of interpretation.

As to enamel, I try to keep it simple. I consider enamel any film forming coating that forms an elastic "skin". It may not pass a paint chemist's muster, but it works for me. I have my go to finishes that I use mostly, but have some understanding of different products and where they might be required or a better choice. Just as flats, etc, have a range of sheens, semi-glosses, etc, have a range of hardness. So to BJ, yes, all of those finishes that you mentioned I would consider enamels, but not 123 which is not a topcoat.

chrisn 01-28-2013 04:33 PM

but not 123 which is not a topcoat.


for most of us:laughing:

jeffnc 01-28-2013 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brushjockey (Post 1103575)
Enamel these days seems to be applied to anything above a flat.

Not to mention "flat enamel".


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